Payton Moreland
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3,581 appearances
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Jun 2025
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But apparently Sam's involvement with the Atomwaffen wasn't confined to his bedroom. He had even made a trip to Colorado in the past to meet with a neo-Nazi leader. And then another trip to Texas where he attended an Atomwaffen retreat. It was literally called a hate camp.
Okay, but get what they learn at this hate camp. Okay. It's terrifying to think that this exists in our world.
To me, it's just like you attend this group. Bye. Like that has to be illegal. Is it not?
I guess freedom of speech, right?
Right, right. I get it. I get it. So apparently Sam was so involved in this group. He was even the one designing the admissions test at one point for these guys. So this isn't just like a morbid curiosity. There is evidence that Sam was actively involved in this terrorist group.
Right. Yeah. Like you're known to do this.
Ja, ich glaube, sie müssen das Gesetz nicht zuerst machen. Es scheint also, dass das angefangen hat, so früh wie in der Mittelschule, als Sam zuerst einen Interesse in der Nazi-Historie der Weltkriege nahm. Und als er seine Teenagerjahre betrug, begann Sam, Neo-Faschisten und Neo-Nazi-Gruppen online zu suchen und wurde schnell radikalisiert.
Well, I know if you're a fan of true crime, you also probably became heavily involved in World War II history on the spectrum of thinking that the Nazis were absolutely horrific and what they did to Jewish people and minority groups was horrific. And to think that Sam also became heavily involved in World War II history, but was idolizing Jews.
Das ist eine ganz andere furchtbare Sache, zu denken, dass jüngere Kinder diese Hassgruppen auf der Internetseite suchen könnten und ohne dass die Eltern überhaupt bewusst sind, dass sie sich indoktriniert fühlen. Denn das ist es, was er gemacht hat. Er wurde fasziniert von den Nazis und ging dann online und suchte, ob es noch andere Leute da waren, die dieses Verhalten Fans waren.
Was also die Polizei herausgefunden hat, war, dass Blaise Bernstein von Sam Monate vorher getarget worden war, bevor sie sich im Dezember tatsächlich getroffen haben. Ich meine, ich bin ziemlich sicher, dass das illegal ist. Flirtation even started between the two, Blaze telling Sam that he's attracted to him, and Sam seemingly returned the sentiment in these messages.
When Blaze's friends were asked why he might have even entertained a connection with Sam, they said Blaze might have been intrigued by the idea of a once very conservative classmate finally coming out of his shell and just accepting his sexuality, that he was probably, you know, against gay people because he was actually gay. And so there was something about... Like some projection, basically.
Yeah, and so there was something for Blaze about, you know... finally helping someone accept this. Chances were, Blaze being the kind and thoughtful person he was, he saw an opportunity to support someone who needed a confidant. And he chose to play that role for Sam. But I guess their conversation sort of fizzled out over the following months.
That was until the two matched again in January of 2018. It was actually that night. That's when Blaze decided to give Sam his address and see where the conversation went in person. So finally meet up. Of course, he had no idea that Sam had become this radicalized member of a terrorist organization and that he was literally walking into a lion's den.
So the police felt pretty confident that Sam acted on his own here, at least when it came to the actual murder. But when they go through his computer and the forms that he visited after committing the murder, it does seem like he told other members of his community about the murder and was praised.
Das ist der Grund, weshalb sieben Monate nach Sams Anruf die Berufe von Mörder im ersten Grad zu Mörder im ersten Grad mit einem Hasskrieg verbessert werden. Die Unterschiede sind tatsächlich die Möglichkeit des Paroles. Wenn Sam von einem Hasskrieg verurteilt wurde, würde es diese Möglichkeit aus dem Tisch nehmen, was bedeuten würde, dass Sam hinter den Bars sterben würde.
Now of course, Sam Woodward pleaded not guilty to all of his charges.
Well, I don't think Sam believes he did anything wrong. I don't think he thinks he is guilty. In his ideology, this was the right thing to do. So, he had a pre-trial hearing in January of 2019, a year after the murder. Like we see in a lot of cases, Sam's official trial was delayed because of the pandemic.
And after a long series of postponements, Sam actually got his day in court in April of 2024. Wow. This murder happened in 2018. The trial doesn't happen until 2024. You have to think about this. That is six years of the family's life that they just have to sit and wait and see if there will be justice.
Das sind auch sechs Jahre Stress, Gehörspflicht, Zeit, schlaflose Nachts, wundern, ob die Person, die Ihren Sohn verurteilt hat, hinter den Bars bleiben wird. Das ist viel zu lange, in meiner Meinung, für jemanden, der für Gerechtigkeit warten muss, besonders weil die Stecken in diesem Fall wirklich hoch sind.
In a way, it's not just about getting justice for Blaze, it's also getting justice for a hate crime. Which, when someone is a target of hate crime, it feels like an attack on that entire community, the community that was targeted. And finally, just standing up and facing evil and hatred as a whole.
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