Payton Moreland
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3,581 appearances
30 recordings
1 series
first heard Nov 2024
last heard Jun 2025
Payton Moreland’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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So by the time Jake actually entered his college years, his doctors have tried upward of 30 different medications to try and manage this.
though none of them really seemed to help in the way he hoped. And honestly, this is like devastating. It is absolutely devastating. And things only got worse for Jake once he was alone. That's when he began self-medicating with things like drugs and alcohol. Und es in der Klasse zu machen, wurde Jake's Problem am wenigsten. Aber das war, als seine Eltern eine Idee hatten.
Vielleicht sollte Jake einfach mit seinem Cousin Pamela in ihrer New York City Apartment ein bisschen bleiben. Nach allem, wenn jemand Jake vollzeit helfen könnte, wäre es sie, weil sie Psychiaterin war.
Sie sagen ihnen, lasst ihn aus seinem Umfeld raus, lasst ihn aufstehen, lasst ihn mit seinem Cousin Pamela, der ein Psychiater ist, der mehr darüber weiß, und vielleicht kann sie ihm helfen, Dinge umzusetzen. Aber ich glaube nicht, dass ein normales Bipolar-Verhältnis so einfach ist, dass man einfach Dinge umsetzen kann. Aber sie hoffen, dass das helfen kann.
So, Pamela Buckbinder was a bit older than Jake, by about 23 years. But the two had seemingly been close for a lot of Jake's life. So close that he was practically the godfather to her four-year-old son, Calder. So, 43-jährige Pamela machte einen Vertrag mit Jake und seinen Eltern. Er könnte mit ihr bleiben, täglich Therapie-Sessionen bekommen, während sie seine Medikamente monitoriert hat.
Das ist unglaublich. Und in der Rückkehr konnte er um die Haustür helfen und sie zu erheben. Jetzt war Pamela nicht verheiratet. In Wahrheit, sie und ihr Ex-Verein Michael Wise haben sie zusammengehalten. Aber seitdem sie sich vor einem Jahr oder so gebrochen haben, hatten sie ihre Sohn ausgeschlossen. Also in einer Art und Weise war diese Situation für Jake und Pamela nötig.
Die beiden konnten sich auf einander verlassen und es sah sich ehrlich gesagt gut für Jake an, zumindest zu Beginn. He moved there and Jake started holding himself to a higher standard now that Calder was looking up to him. He felt purpose in life, like he had to set a good example for him.
Jake had always wanted to have his own family, but his mental health seemed to stand in the way of making that possible. But now, in a way, he had achieved those dreams by getting closer with Calder and Pamela. But over time it became clear, there was something wrong with the dynamic between Jake and his cousin Pamela.
It seemed to start with a photo of Jake and Pamela in bed together with Calder one morning. So whether or not he posted this on social media, I'm not really sure. But I know that the image started to go around and it definitely made Jake's parents like, why is he in bed with his 43-year-old cousin and her son? Like, this doesn't look like they're cousins hanging out with the child.
This looks like a different type of picture.
They became even more suspicious when they actually found some texts between Pamela and Jake on Jake's cell phone. Messages that read things like, You are remarkable. My love for you is huge. You're the most fun person to love.
I have so many thoughts about you. But here's the thing. Jake tells everyone that he and Pamela were never physical or romantic with one another. That it was just words and nothing more. But the truth was, Pamela did have an agenda. She knew exactly what she was trying to do by sending Jake these lovey, sweet texts. And the psychiatrist, Pamela, was not actually falling in love with her cousin.
She was trying to manipulate him, weaponize him,
A little back story on Pamela. As I mentioned, the psychiatrist had fallen in love years before with another New York City psychiatrist named Michael Weiss. He was the father of her four-year-old son. Now, I'm not sure how long Pamela and Michael were together for, but I know it was a while because while they never got married, Michael was seen as family.
I mean, he had attended parties for Jake, so he had been around for at least close to a decade, if not longer, since Jake was now in his 20s. So he had been a part of Pamela's family. Though despite both of them being mental health professionals, the relationship they shared was actually pretty toxic.
Not only was it on again, off again, both sides claimed that there were instances of domestic violence from the other. And though Pamela had actually been arrested for it before, during one fight she attacked Michael with a broken glass and he ended up needing stitches. I guess on another occasion Michael was arrested after Pamela reported him for attempting to assault her.
Du weißt, ich würde sagen, dass es viele Leute gibt, die wirklich gut an Inspirierung und Lehren sind und nicht tun. Du weißt, was ich meine? Und ich glaube, das ist ein Talent in und für sich. Es gibt Dance-Coaches da draußen, die nicht tanzen können, aber sie können Dance wirklich gut lernen. Und ich denke, dass das mit jeder Profession ist.
Don't worry, you guys. I can teach you how to podcast and I can podcast.
Right. So that's kind of what's going on with them. Both of them have been in trouble with the law for hurting the other person. The whole thing's really ugly. Not the kind of loving partnership you would want to bring a kid into. And nonetheless, Pamela had their son in 2008. Aber sie und Michael haben sich für gut kurz nachdem sie ihr Baby hatte verabschiedet.
2012, während Jake in New York City mit Pamela lebte, waren sie und Michael tatsächlich in einer heiligen Verhandlung über Calder. And Jake was hearing every single update of what was going on, or at least Pamela's side of things.
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