Pedro Franceschi
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But anyway, and then I went obviously very deep into this rabbit hole and started spending a lot of time thinking how to change the fabric of the company and the way we build the products.
We were all scared.
Yeah, don't get me wrong.
We deal with financial services data.
We spend a lot of time figuring out how to be mindful of security and protection.
And yet, I think people are...
a little bit more risk averse than the technology probably requires them to be given where the technology is.
And when we started using OpenClaw personally, I started doing it in a lot of my own personal setup.
Basically what I did in the V1 was I'm going to give it read access to everything and just create like OAuth tokens to my email, to Slack, and to everything to just literally not write.
And I was kind of shocked how far it got me.
And then the next question that we spent time on Brex was, okay, like how do we actually get it to write into our systems?
And everybody, including our security team, was, well, we cannot do that for all the reasons that we know.
And then basically where I spent, I don't know, probably four weeks of my time was, okay, let's solve the hardest problem, which is security.
And we ended up realizing that the only way to actually do something about it was to do something in the network layer.
And if you treat the agent like, you know, the agent has its own wills, desires, and, you know, they go to the Aslan Institute for agents.
Instead of Foxconn's factory.
They will try to do things at a network boundary that could not be the right ones.
And we decided to actually just focus on that.
So a lot of folks were, you know, and we saw NVIDIA and others on NimbleClaw, let's build these open shell forks that have controls over, you know, tools the model calls.
And the reality is, yeah, you can do all that, but you can also just make an HTTP request wrong.
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