Penny Sarchet

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1,050 appearances 18 recordings 1 series first heard Jun 2026 last heard 2d ago

Penny Sarchet’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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The World, the Universe and Us · THIS Is What You Need To Worry About With The Rise Of AI · 18 Sep 2026 podcast

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I don't think it helps that you do have people coming out of AI companies saying, look, I'm really, really worried about this. voice-verified

That doesn't help matters. voice-verified

That doesn't help. voice-verified

That makes it all seem quite scary. voice-verified

And one of the things that keeps coming up in this is this alignment problem. voice-verified

So what exactly is alignment or misalignment and how do we sort it? voice-verified

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So, I mean, the way we're phrasing it there, it's a human problem. voice-verified

And one thing that sort of gets my goat a bit, this idea of alignment, it almost sort of suggests that AI has its own morals or values and they're not aligning to ours. voice-verified

But actually, it sounds like it's more to do with us not being clear enough or interacting within, you know, safety constraints. voice-verified

And a lot of the current concern over alignment and how AI chooses to solve a problem and what rules it might break comes from this example from OpenAI, where they were testing some agents on cybersecurity, but the agents broke out of the safe space and reached the internet. voice-verified

Jacob, can you tell us what happened? voice-verified

So hacked in because it was voice-verified

that it might want to do. voice-verified

Is that a science in itself? voice-verified

Because when we're talking about these examples... voice-verified

I think it's quite easy as a person to say, well, don't do any hacking, hacking is bad. voice-verified

But then when we actually define what actually is hacking, that's the problem. voice-verified

And is it about finding what those definitions are? voice-verified

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