Penny Williams

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1,352 appearances 3 recordings 1 series first heard Jan 2018 last heard 11 Nov

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And that was probably the biggest sign for me.
But there were just a lot of little nuances that I was like, you know, if this was really only ADHD, some of this stuff would should be getting better.
And so I started having him re evaluated.
And it took two years for me to find a clinician that would look deep enough to see it because he makes good eye contact.
He has excellent conversations with adults and
He doesn't really stem.
So all of these stereotypical pieces of autism were missing for him.
And a lot of clinicians didn't want to look past that.
They didn't feel the need to look past that.
Um, we actually our first evaluation was at an organization called Teach, which is um part of the University of North Carolina system and it's a nonprofit.
And they are supposed to be, you know, the absolute best evaluation for autism.
We waited nine months to get in and had the pre interview with me and passed that that yes he should be evaluated.
Then he was given the ADOS, which is supposed to be the Cadillac of Autism Evaluations.
And they sat down with us at the end of the day and said ADHD fits better.
And did not give him the diagnosis.
And I was kind of crushed because I I just as educated as I have made myself about these things over the years, I knew there was something else there.
And I felt kind of cheated that they were saying, Well, this one thing fits better, so we're just gonna stick to that because I feel like
to n to understand a child fully, you need to know all the pieces.
And, you know, a lot of people are anti label, but the label, the diagnosis, is helping us understand parts of our kids.
Right.
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