Perrin Ireland

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How to Be a Better Human · Why should you care about animal sex? (w/ Perrin Ireland) · 3 Aug 2026 podcast

And my trans friends always tell me like, cis people are obsessed with genitalia.

You guys are obsessed with genitalia and what it means about a body.

And we do that with hyenas too.

And the reason I mentioned the androgens earlier is they've done studies to, they were like, okay, well, the androgens are what's making them have these externalized clitorises.

And they've done studies where they've knocked out the androgens and they still develop them.

So we can't even in hyenas map this hormonal bath.

that we are used to associating with the development of certain body parts onto the way that their anatomy takes shape.

And of course, they're like only newly being admitted to zoos because they were so disliked for so long.

For me, this section on albatross is really a love letter to the long-term field study, which I think that Hyena researches also because I think

for researchers to spend season after season watching these animals that have long-term relationships with each other, like albatross, and to have them return each year to the colony.

I have loved what I've gotten to get out of those scientists in interviews that might not wind up in the journal paper about what they feel about what they see.

But we are, through particularly our behavior in the global north, forcing sea level temperature rise.

And scientists are finding, looking at over 30 years of data, Francesco Ventura and his team at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute found that when a female albatross, when the ocean is hotter, comes back to her breeding colony at the end of what they think was a long, hard winter, searching further afield for less food,

She is inclined to divorce her long-term mate at much higher rates than we've ever previously seen before in these birds.

And so, one of the things I wanted to really talk about and look at in that section of the book is, I think if we're going to swoon over certain kinds of animal love, at this point in planetary history, that means we need to take responsibility for it.

We're forcing them apart, and so what do we want to do about that if we love these unions so much?

Lasian.

I like really take delight in at readings, reading that section.

And when, you know, there's a drawing I made of Laura Bush holding one of the eggs that the scientist is showing her and it's like she's holding an incubating lesbian that's going to grow into an adult lesbian one day.

And for me, it's also like the way that nature is kind of perpetually pulling pranks on us.

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