Pete Smissen

It's got like a bunch of trees around it, sort of sheltering it from the wind.

And then you have this view looking down the sort of mountain.

Towards Mount Macedon.

Yeah, exactly.

So, it's a beautiful view with all the sort of big windows in the house on that side of it, right?

So, do you want to describe the cabin and when and how it was made?

Well, it probably doesn't get as much use during summer as a result of that, right?

Because it's kind of part of the appeal.

It's so funny seeing my kids going through that process at the moment.

Of being like hyper fixated on wanting to interact with the fire one way or another.

Sit near it, start it, throw things in there like paper, cardboard, get a stick, but burn the end of the stick and poke the fire and watch the flames and everything.

And my sister and I did exactly the same.

Exactly the same.

Yeah.

It's such a deep evolutionary thing.

Playing with fire.

For humans in particular.

I feel like no matter where you are, if there's a fire, there is something hypnotic, captivating.

It's funny, I've been reading about William Buckley recently, right?

We're thinking- Where did he go on holidays?