Peter Attia

Yeah.

And then the question, of course, is, is there a way around that?

Is there a way where you could intermittently dose it?

You just take it once, you time it so that it's not in proximity to a bout of resistance training by a couple of days or something like that.

But yeah, there's a lot there.

Great expression I heard recently, which is mice usually lie.

Monkeys sometimes lie.

It's humans we care about.

That was just fantastic.

It was the human equivalent dose.

I was like, wow, they're eating their body weight.

I think the mice atherosclerosis studies are very dangerous.

We have to be very careful.

They have a very different lipoprotein system than we do.

They evolved in a totally different manner than we did.

The amount of protein they require is totally different from us.

So I'm always really wary when I see these studies that are using the mouse model of atherosclerosis.

I understand why we do it, because it's much easier and cheaper than looking at primates.

And obviously, we can't do these studies in humans.

You can find a lot of things in mice when it comes to atherosclerosis that don't seem to matter whatsoever in human biology.