Peter Kuznick

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A global conflict between nuclear armed powers would mean death and destruction on a scale unmatched in human history. That's what Donald Trump said recently. You know, so he thinks that giving the Ukrainians permission to use the attack M's the way we are is crazy.
I've got a lot of friends who are Russian historians and Russian experts. And my friends in Russia, when we talk about religion, they say after the collapse of the Soviet Union, everybody got baptized, but nobody actually goes to church. So, I mean, they're religious in a different sense and it's part of their national identity and heritage, but I'm not sure that they're believers in that way.
And as you were saying, Unlike the United States, where we've got Catholics and all kinds of Protestants and Jews and Muslims and Hindus. I mean, they've got much more of an identity that revolves around their religious heritage.
Yeah.
I don't know how- But this administration, much like the Biden administration, we were talking about Biden earlier, and Oliver was talking, surprised by how hawkish Biden is. Biden's always been a cold warrior and very much of a hawk. And he came to office with 18 top advisors from the Center for New American Security. Now, these are the people like Sullivan, who are the China hawks.
Many of them were the people behind the Asia pivot under Hillary Clinton and Obama. But Ukraine got in the way because there was... China, who they wanted to go after. And even Rand has a proposal, a report saying, titled, Avoiding a Long War in Ukraine, because they wanted to get after China. Now, the Trump people are also much more hawkish toward China and Iran than they are toward Ukraine.
So I think that... Economically. My fear is... that they'll successfully end Ukraine and then turn their fire elsewhere. Except that Trump did invite Xi Jinping to come to the inauguration. And I think it is showing some signs of moderating.
Well, and transactional.
Right. Make a deal with Iran. What would that look like?
That's what that, the whole foreign policy establishment is saying that. And I agree with Oliver, it's nuts. Do they believe it, do you think? They can't even defeat Ukraine. They want to take on NATO? I mean, this makes no logical sense at all. And for Putin, Ukraine has a special meaning and special history for Russia. Yes. You know, and he doesn't want Poland or Romania. No.
This idea that he wants to recreate the Soviet empire, he said anyone who doesn't miss the Soviet Union has no heart. Anyone who wants to recreate it has no brain. It's a good line.
But they are hurting their own economy again by this massive expansion of arms production. That's what brought them down in the 80s, really. They're spending 25 to 40% of their budget on arms. And now they're doing that again. So even though in the long and short run, they're thriving economically, unlike Europe, in the long run, it's going to hurt them.
So it's very much in their interest to end this war. It's in everybody's interest. If you're pro-Ukrainian, what is the point of it? For example, after the attackams were given permission, everybody gave permission, I was watching CNN and they had Bolton and they had Stavridis and Clark, and they all said,
too little, too late, using the attack M's, that it's great that we're doing it, but it's too little, too late. What these people are saying is they're willing to risk nuclear war over something that they know is not going to make any difference for the Ukrainians anyway. The Ukraine is losing. That's the reality. They can't keep up with Russia. They're outmanned. They're outgunned.
They're outstrategized at this point.
No. No. Putin wants a little bit more than that right now.
He's going to keep, he's got four provinces that they said are incorporated into Russia. So Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia. And he's going to want at least as much of them as his army controls. He's going to want more.
But their bargaining position might be they might give up the parts that they don't control for no arms, no foreign arms and soldiers in Ukraine, no NATO in Ukraine, and a lasting peace. I don't think they want it. The West says, oh, it's going to be temporary and then they're going to just start it up again when they're ready. This has been a terrible war for Russia as well as for Ukraine.
And if you're sympathetic to Ukraine, the last thing you want is going to see this continue because they're only losing more. They're only in a weaker position and their young men are getting, not so young men are getting killed at incredible numbers. So if we stop it a year from now, What's going to be different? Russia's going to have more of Ukraine.
There'll be more Ukrainians dead, more economy destroyed on both sides, more Russians dead. This is a horrible war for everybody.
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