Peter Roth

But yeah, there's a huge opportunity, I think, for companies.

Or it's actually, we work with a lot of fundraisers and charities and stuff like that.

And that's a huge new area that we're about to crack into, is kind of the whole charity side of things and fundraising side of things.

Because it's the same thing.

They need more donors.

Just cold outreach.

And again, they're not used to it.

So once what was old is now new again.

So now there's a huge opportunity in that space.

And they're really good at that kind of stuff too.

Isn't it interesting how good of a business they run though?

Could you imagine like if most businesses ran a business like that where everything was so methodical and so well thought through like as soon as someone became a client or a donor or whatever that they immediately became enrolled in this chain of events?

And isn't that interesting how so how amazingly skilled they are at it even though they're technically not for profit?

Of course.

And that's, it's interesting you brought that up, the whole thing, because that's what I'm seeing like in the HVAC space.

I don't want to keep, you know, drilling about HVAC, but like that's one thing that I noticed about HVAC where those guys tend to ride on their laurels a lot.

Cause HVAC is a little bit unique as opposed to like a lot of other business types, even just, even within the home services space.

So like anyone who's watching this stuff, like you're in roofing or you're in solar or business like that, where it's a, where your lifetime value of your client is kind of like a one and done thing.

Pay attention because you're probably are going to agree with me on this, that you always are struggling because you always need a new client.

Like you always need to replace your clients with a new one because the cities they buy from you, they're done.