Peter Thiel
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And then Epstein suggested that he should get a divorce circa 2010, 2011. And Gates told him something like, you know, that doesn't quite work. He didn't have – presumably because he didn't have a prenup. So there's one part of Epstein as a marriage counselor, which is sort of disturbing. But then the second thing that we know that Gates talked to Epstein about was sort of
You know, all the sort of collaborating on funding, setting up this philanthropy, all this sort of this somewhat corrupt left-wing philanthropy structures. And so there's a question, you know, does – and then my sort of straightforward alternate conspiracy theory is should we ask – should we combine those two?
And was there, you know, and I don't have all the details on this figured out, but it would be something like, you know, Bill and Melinda get married in 1994. They don't sign a prenup. And, you know, something's going wrong with the marriage. And maybe Melinda can get half the money. In a divorce, he doesn't want her to get half the money. What do you do?
And then the alternate plan is something like you set up – you commit the marital assets to this nonprofit and then it sort of – locks Melinda into not complaining about the marriage for a long, long time. And so there's something about the left-wing philanthropy world that was some sort of boomer way to control their crazy wives or something like this.
There are all these – and he talked to Epstein about – he got Epstein to meet with the head of the Nobel Prize Foundation. So it was – yeah, Bill Gates wanted to get a Nobel Prize. Wow. Right? So this is all – yeah, this is all straightforward. This is all known. Yeah. And I'm not saying what you're saying about – Do you know the history of the Nobel Prize?
Sure, it was fermenting dynamite.
Or not ironic.
But I think – but then if we – and so there's – yeah, so there's an underage sex version of the Epstein story and then there is a crazy status Nobel Prize history of it and there is a corrupt left-wing philanthropy one and there is a – boomers who didn't sign prenuptial agreements with their wives story and I think all those are worth exploring more. I think you're right.
Sorry, which one do I think is most corrupt?
Well... Man, it's... There's something about Maybe it's just my hermeneutic of suspicion. But there's something about, you know, there's something about the virtue signaling and what does it mean. And I always think this is sort of a Europe – America versus Europe difference where in America we're told that – Philanthropy is something a good person does.
And if you're a Rockefeller and you start giving away all your money, this is just what a good person does and it shows how good you are. And then I think sort of the European intuition on it is something like, you know, wow, that's only something a very evil person does. And if you start giving away all your money in Europe, it's like, Joe, you must have murdered somebody.
You must be covering up for something. So there are these two very different intuitions. And I think the European one is more correct than the American one. And probably there's some history where the sort of left-wing philanthropy peaked in 2007, 2010, 2012. And there's these subtle ways we've become more European in our sensibilities as a society.
And so it has this very different valence from what it did uh 12 or 14 years ago but yeah it's all we ask all these questions like we're asking right now about bill gates where it's like okay he was you know it was like all the testimony in the microsoft antitrust trial in the 90s like he's cutting off the air supply he wants to strangle people
And he's like he's kind of a sociopathic guy, it seems. And then it's this giant whitewashing operation. And then somehow the whitewashing has been made too transparent and it gets deconstructed and exposed by the Internet or whatever.
Yeah. Or, um, there are all these alternate versions I can give, but yeah, I think, um, I think, uh, It's always so hard to know what's really going on in our culture, though. So I think all what you say is true, but I also think it's not working as well as it used to. I agree. And there is a way people see through this.
It's not always as articulate as you just articulated it, but there's some vague intuition that – You know, when Mr. Gates is just wearing sweaters and looks like Mr. Rogers, that something fishy is going on.
Or Elon Musk.
The vice signaling is safer than virtue signaling.
Because if you're – You know, if you're virtue signaling, our intuition is something really, really, really sketchy.
Again, my alternate one, which is not incompatible with yours on Gates, is that Melinda finally files for divorce in early 21. I think she told Bill she wanted one late 2019. So 2020, the year where Bill Gates goes into overdrive on COVID, you know, all this stuff, you know, part of it, maybe it's self-dealing and he's trying to make money from the drug company or something like this.
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