Peter Thiel

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1,088 appearances 12 recordings 11 series first heard Jul 2024 last heard 15 Jun

Peter Thiel’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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You know, we no longer did, you know, no longer did Bay of Pigs type covert stuff like that. But I think there were still something like four or five assassination plots on Fidel.
And then I think there was, I don't know, I think that, again, I'm going to get this garbled. I think a month or two before the JFK assassination, Castro said something like, you know, there might be repercussions if you keep doing this.
This is again where I think it is. I don't think we're in a world where zero stuff is happening. The place where I directionally have a different feel for it is I think so much less of this stuff is going on. And it's so much harder in this internet world for people to hide.
And there are legacy programs and there are internal records that are being kept. And, you know, I don't know this for sure, but I think even the NSA FISA court stuff, which was an out-of-control deep state thing that was going on through about 2016, 2017, I suspect even that at this point, you know, can't quite work because people know that they're being watched. They know they're being recorded.
And it's just, you know— You can't do waterboarding in Guantanamo if you have lawyers running all over the place.
And then on the other hand, I think there's also a degree to which our government, our deep state across the board is shockingly less competent, less functional, And it's less capable of this. And this is where I'm not even sure whether this is an improvement. So it's sort of like maybe the 1963 U.S. where let's go with the craziest version where our deep state is capable of
Knocking off the president. Maybe that's actually a higher functioning society than the crazy version where they're incapable of doing it. Right. And they're bogged down with DEI. They can't get the gunman even to have a scope on his rifle or whatever.
Man, it's like much bigger – they can't find someone as competent as Oswald or something like that. Yeah, that's a good point. It's a good point. So I veer more to the explanation that it's gross –
Very effectively. You can do things as a solo actor. It's hard to organize because everything gets recorded.
You all will coordinate together. That is still a strange counterpoint to my thesis. Why has the dirt not come out? And so somehow there's some way – The container is still kind of working.
You know, in the – but again, just to take the other side of this, both in the Assange-Snowden stuff, yeah, it showed an out-of-control deep state that was just hoovering up all the data in the world. Right. And then – but we weren't – like, it didn't show – Like James Bond times 100. There weren't like exploding cigar assassination plots. There was none of it.
We're doing so little with this is is is that or at least that's the. But, you know, it's I think it's there's so much less agency in the CIA, in the Central Intelligence Agency. It's so much less agentic.
So that's your placeholder theory or that's what you think more than space aliens? Or do you think both space aliens and that or which version of this?
But do you think the UFO sightings from the 50s and 60s were already drone programs? Were they already that advanced?
You know, the – let me think what my – I hear everything you're saying. I'm strangely under-motivated by it.
Even if it's plausible.
I'll do – And I guess on the space aliens, which is the wilder, more interesting one in a way, you know, I don't know, Roswell was 77 years ago, 1947. And if... If the phenomenon is real and it's from another world, it's space aliens, space robots, whatever, probably one of the key features is its ephemerality or its cloaking.
And they are really good at hiding it, at cloaking it, at scrambling people's brains after they see them or stuff like this.
And then, you know, if you're a researcher, you have to pick fields where you can make progress. And so this is it's not a promising field. And, you know, academia is messed up. But even if academia were not messed up, this would not be a good field in which to try to make a career because there's been so little progress in 77 years. And so.
So if you think of it from the point of view of. I don't know, Jacques Vallée or some of these people who have been working on this for 50 years. And yeah, it feels like there's something there, but then it's just as soon as you feel like you have something almost that's graspable, like the TikTok videos, whatever, it's just always at the margin of recognition. The ephemerality is a key feature.
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