Peter Tragos

Could I have hit him?

Which there are some other people that say- We have that.

Right, and that is one of the big points of contention.

And as you know, one of the big things now that there's competing civil lawsuits that we may talk about later, when we're talking about the criminal case and you're saying, here's the best evidence for one side and here's the best evidence for the other, the prosecution in this case has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt what happened that night.

And that was one of the big difficulties when you have maybe some EMS and some people said, she said, I hit him.

Some people said, did I hit him?

Based on her conversations and a lot of what else happened that night, maybe it wasn't as clear of a confession.

And nobody seemed to think that at the time that it was a clear confession.

And then when you flip to his injuries, which you mentioned them as kind of good evidence for both sides that her taillight pieces were on him, in his sweater, kind of attached to him.

How would they get there unless she hit him with her Lexus?

And then she says his injuries match a fight, getting beat up by cops inside.

He had raccoon eyes.

He died from hitting the back of his head.

And the evidence shows maybe it was on a ledge and not a flat ground.

You know, that was a little, who was actually going to prove what injury was the cause of death and how he got it.

So that was a big point of contention throughout.

And if you looked at a lot of the medical evidence and the accident reconstructionists, to me, that's really where Karen Reed's...

And that's one of the problems with so many facts in this case is there was kind of competing theories on that where if you hit a man that's 200 pounds, maybe that's not going to be enough to register an event when you have a very heavy Lexus like that.

And then there were some people that said, well, maybe it should have, and there's nothing on here that actually did register it.

But even more so, Karen Reed had accident reconstructionists that were actually hired by the FBI while they were investigating this investigation.