Peter Van Sant

And let's see where this goes, because I just think this is not over, this story.

And let's see where this goes, because I just think this is not over, this story.

It's Trained to Kill, The Dog Trainer, The Heiress, and The Bodyguard. I've read it about 15 times. Wherever you get your podcasts, you can find this. But for those who are watching this who are familiar with my work and know how hard I prepare for these things, I was deeply involved in the production of this. So it has the Van Sant brand on it.

It's Trained to Kill, The Dog Trainer, The Heiress, and The Bodyguard. I've read it about 15 times. Wherever you get your podcasts, you can find this. But for those who are watching this who are familiar with my work and know how hard I prepare for these things, I was deeply involved in the production of this. So it has the Van Sant brand on it.

I am deeply committed to this story, and I just hope people take the time to listen. I think it is a fascinating tale. And to have access like this that we had, to have interviewed Linda Updike three times. And by the way, she comes across in every interview as absolutely credible.

I am deeply committed to this story, and I just hope people take the time to listen. I think it is a fascinating tale. And to have access like this that we had, to have interviewed Linda Updike three times. And by the way, she comes across in every interview as absolutely credible.

Michael Oakes, not so much. But we talked to everyone, the lead investigator, the defense attorneys, all of that. It's a fascinating presentation.

Michael Oakes, not so much. But we talked to everyone, the lead investigator, the defense attorneys, all of that. It's a fascinating presentation.

Uh, I, I really want to explore podcasting. I really want to get deeper and deeper into this. I'm right now involved in three different podcasts. Uh, besides trying to kill, we do post-mortem. Which is after each 48 hours episode, we do a podcast about, you know, giving extra detail about that show. And then I'm working with another producer on our show.

Uh, I, I really want to explore podcasting. I really want to get deeper and deeper into this. I'm right now involved in three different podcasts. Uh, besides trying to kill, we do post-mortem. Which is after each 48 hours episode, we do a podcast about, you know, giving extra detail about that show. And then I'm working with another producer on our show.

We're doing a podcast about killers that we've interviewed in the past. And we're doing one that I wrote a book on, co-wrote a book on some years ago that is really cool.

We're doing a podcast about killers that we've interviewed in the past. And we're doing one that I wrote a book on, co-wrote a book on some years ago that is really cool.

It's called Perfectly Executed is the name of the book. But it's a fascinating case. And we're doing a podcast about that. But these podcasts, you know, there's a lot of freedom here to be able to tell a story as completely as possible. And I really, I really love that.

It's called Perfectly Executed is the name of the book. But it's a fascinating case. And we're doing a podcast about that. But these podcasts, you know, there's a lot of freedom here to be able to tell a story as completely as possible. And I really, I really love that.

Yeah. Well, just like in this, you know, when we start this thing off that it's in the early morning darkness in Anacortes, Washington, this woman arrives for work and she's hearing the howling of these dogs uncontrollably barking like they're werewolves. Now, what can we all do in our minds with that that we could never have done with our video camera? It's... That's an exciting way to go.

Yeah. Well, just like in this, you know, when we start this thing off that it's in the early morning darkness in Anacortes, Washington, this woman arrives for work and she's hearing the howling of these dogs uncontrollably barking like they're werewolves. Now, what can we all do in our minds with that that we could never have done with our video camera? It's... That's an exciting way to go.

And that's why, you know, when radio back in its infancy and they had all those plays on radio, the human mind can create the most incredible visuals. If you've done a good job describing things, the human mind takes off and it makes for a limitless visual journey.

And that's why, you know, when radio back in its infancy and they had all those plays on radio, the human mind can create the most incredible visuals. If you've done a good job describing things, the human mind takes off and it makes for a limitless visual journey.

Thank you so much. I appreciate you having me on.

Thank you so much. I appreciate you having me on.