Phil Davis

So whether it be more reporters, more TV shows, that.

But then there's this second lane, which is the age of social media and the like.

It's a different form.

But what is happening, I think those two together have really increased the...

has really increased the, I don't know, the toll that I think it's having on players.

Just the inability to escape, the inability to have somewhat of a normal life.

And I think what's happening is it's bottling up and causing a lot of issues.

And then I should have said there's actually a third one.

And I think there's been a significant cultural shift where you don't, which is for the better.

I think the first two are not helpful.

But I think this third one around a shift in the culture where talking and discussing and bringing this to the surface is becoming more normal and you're not having to suffer and hide like you may have 30 years ago.

I think Dermot Brereton said it very nicely a couple of weeks ago, just saying like 20 years ago, they would have just said, Elijah's not cut out for AFL football.

versus now it's a very different discussion.

And I think that's the other sort of tailwind that, you know, has moved this to where it is now.

Yeah, I think this is an interesting one because in my mind, there are two types of psychologists.

You have, in my world, you have the sports psychologist and then you had like your day-to-day psychologist.

And I was always very clear, Gerard, on how I operated.

I had...

my day-to-day psychologist who I used to the AFL players association network.

And I still see my psychologist to today through my career.