Phil Hellmuth

Friend of the pod, Larry Summers, was a main character in them.

And he was communicating with Epstein up until 2019, asking him,

for advice on dating.

He's since stepped down from OpenAI and several other public facing roles.

And was just, I think, put on leave from Harvard.

I mean, what do you guys think's gonna be the fallout from this, I guess, is what... From the release of the files?

Is that the question?

Yeah, I mean, I guess we'll put our tinfoil hats on.

Well, also they did have, I think the reason they didn't release them was because there was an open Ghislaine Maxwell case as well, and she was appealing it so they couldn't release it.

This feels like a singular thing.

Like, and also it'll bake for, a lot of these issues have to bake for a decade or two before people want them to come out.

This has been going on for now for how many decades?

I know a little bit about it because I met Epstein half dozen times at the TED conference.

Oh, you did?

Yes.

So interesting.

I've talked about it on my Twitter incessantly because I'm in it.

Because you are in his book.

I am amongst the thousands of people in his black book.

I met him at the TED conference.