Phil Labonte

As soon as the person's in the car, refuses to get out, and hits the accelerator, as soon as the car starts moving towards him, he doesn't have to be like, oh, I know what the car is going to do to defend himself.

The argument is if there is someone in front of the car.

If Nick Shirley's driving down the street, he's not endangering people on the street.

In Nick's order.

He didn't know that she was dead then, first of all.

Second of all, he just got hit by a car.

I know, but when a doctor comes... He didn't prevent her from getting aid.

Okay, so what they were doing is they were protecting the crime scene

because the police and fire fire uh fire authorities were there the police had their own emts and they were on their way down there the people that are on the side of the road that are saying i'm a doctor you don't know that person you don't know what they are you don't know what they're doing so you're what you're saying is they should have allowed a bystander to go and contaminate a crime scene you're not going to do that the police will never do that

But the point is there were already EMTs on the way down the street, right?

There were already EMTs on the scene.

They would have the EMTs from the police department go down there and say, hey, look, we're going to take care of it because if you let someone else go down there, you actually contaminated crime scene.

And whether or not that is something that we like, that is policy with police departments nationwide.

I don't know.

I never saw them either.

It doesn't change the fact that the police will have state officials go to render aid as opposed to bystanders.

Because you don't know.

Well, Phil, how about this?

If a bystander says, oh, I'm going to go down there and I'm going to help, you don't know that guy's an actual EMT.

I'm not coming from a political perspective because I'm a gun guy.