Phil Robertson

That's been a 50-year mystery, Dave.

Paschal?

I thought Mike had a really good illustration about that, that the idea of the intensity is the key.

Because the eagerness is there's an intensity while we're waiting.

It's not passive.

It's very active.

And Mike had talked about it.

He said, you know, you go somewhere and you just sit around and wait.

It's like exhausting.

You know, like if you're just in a long wait, unless you're eager to anticipate.

If you go, like you guys just went to a birth, Jase.

I mean, you didn't get there until the baby was born.

But if you had been there that day, that's a different kind of waiting than just sitting in a waiting room at a hospital somewhere with nothing in particular to happen, just somebody's inside.

But when you're intensely waiting on something new to happen that you're excited about, that's a different kind of waiting.

And so I love that idea of the eagerness that

That's the not yet now, Zach.

That's the idea that we're not just sitting around here hoping it all works out for heaven, that we're going to be in an ethereal cloud somewhere.

I mean, we're already living it.

We're already looking forward to it.

And we hit the idea, Zach, with the new heaven and the new earth, which was really fascinating to me because right now we've got some astronauts up there.