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Phil Trammell

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
150 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell โ€“ What remains scarce after AGI?

So, yes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell โ€“ What remains scarce after AGI?

So anyway, so I just think it's worth drawing that distinction.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell โ€“ What remains scarce after AGI?

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell โ€“ What remains scarce after AGI?

There are currently some rich people that don't seem to, um, satiate quickly in capital.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell โ€“ What remains scarce after AGI?

And, uh, and so maybe in the long run they'll save the most.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell โ€“ What remains scarce after AGI?

Right.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell โ€“ What remains scarce after AGI?

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell โ€“ What remains scarce after AGI?

Um,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell โ€“ What remains scarce after AGI?

That does seem sort of right to me.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell โ€“ What remains scarce after AGI?

And I would just also say, even if they do reproduce more slowly, like biologically, that might just not matter that much in the long run, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell โ€“ What remains scarce after AGI?

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell โ€“ What remains scarce after AGI?

Yeah, yes and no.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell โ€“ What remains scarce after AGI?

I mean, so the capital stock could grow quickly, but the price of capital goods relative to consumption goods could be falling faster than the capital stock could grow.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell โ€“ What remains scarce after AGI?

Oh, interesting.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell โ€“ What remains scarce after AGI?

But the marginal utility in a robot might just be a lot lower than now.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell โ€“ What remains scarce after AGI?

So in units of robots, we want it a lot more than we want it now.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell โ€“ What remains scarce after AGI?

So would the interest rate be 30%?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell โ€“ What remains scarce after AGI?

It depends what you mean by the real interest rate.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell โ€“ What remains scarce after AGI?

It might be that every robot now can turn into 100 robots next year.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell โ€“ What remains scarce after AGI?

So in units of robots, the interest rate is 10,000%.