Phoebe Yang

corners, particularly by asking questions and not dictating outcomes.

And so it's a different sort of hat that you wear, but the operator's experience is so critical to, I think, success in a board role.

And where I've seen the most successful and the most impactful board conversations has always been

I tended to be in that intersection of understanding the operations, but lifting up and seeing five, 10 years down the road of what the potential could be.

Well, thank you, Ed.

I would consider myself a continuous learner.

But on the AI front, the course that I designed and am teaching is really around the business of AI.

Because what I'm finding is that there are people in the industry who are deeply, deeply, deeply technical, but haven't yet lifted up to think about the business and really where demand might be.

And then there are people who are maybe casual users or even intense users.

but haven't thought about the implications of the use.

And so, and in the legal realm, you know, you have great experts, intellectual property, privacy, compliance,

security.

And in the broader realm, you have, you know, IT professionals, HR professionals, you have sort of lots of functional expertise around sales and marketing.

But in the realm of AI,

we need to be able to bring all those perspectives together almost into one.

And so the class I have been teaching is around business leadership in the age of AI, particularly in this case, it was for lawyers, but I will tell you that

The CIO of J&J, who was a guest speaker at my class, he was fantastic.

He said, you know, I want all IT professionals to take this class too, because we talked about, you know, strategy and industry and market shifts and how you think about market share and what are the prerequisites around successful AI adoption.

And then we talked about operating a performance and financial performance and, you know,

Really what you know where the rubber meets the road both whether you're a frontier model, or you're an app developer, or you're a casual user, you know, within a within a larger business and so I think all of those are really, really important, but that notion of business partnership.