Pierre LeBrun

So the question is, is Doug Armstrong really available or not?

And I don't have an answer for you there.

Yeah, no, and listen, I think Mike Gillis is an interesting name to bring back from the past for the simple reason of this, that when you heard Peli talk about data-driven and AI, you're right, by the way, Brian, AI did come up, and talk about the modern approach to a front office.

Mike Gillis, in his day in Vancouver, whether you liked him or not, and he did rub some people the wrong way, Mike Gillis was forward-thinking.

He was trying to do things and thought about things that...

you know, in terms of changing the approach to running a hockey team.

And a lot of the words that I heard today from Pelley immediately made me think of the kind of things that Mike Gillis has always talked about over time.

So, you know, I do believe that Mike Gillis is a guy, for example, that will get a call from Keith Pelley through this process.

Whether it leads to anything, who knows?

But, yeah, there's another name.

That's true.

Well, I thought he gave the right answer, which is that it's up to the new GM or President of Hockey.

It has to be.

Otherwise, everything is an inverse still.

Like, the Leafs have already struggled with these different jobs and contracts not timing up properly, right?

I mean, Tree Living's deal had one more year left.

Berube's deal has two more years left.

You know, Dubas was up in the year in which Keefe had just been signed.

Like, they've always had this issue, seemingly, of not lining up the coach and the GM to begin with.

So...