Pierre LeBrun

You know.

Well, I mean, he brought up Austin and Gino hit him with the rebuild versus retool.

The point is, Judd Moldaver, the agent for Austin Matthews and Austin Matthews himself will have a huge say over that.

But having said that, I mean, to your point, Brian, about...

you know, going into these interviews and ownership hearing what they want.

Like, it's interesting that when Cal Dubas got the job in Pittsburgh, one of the things I heard from other candidates who went through the interview process is that some of them were a bit too honest, they felt, in the sense that they told the owners at the time, Fenway, you need to tear this whole thing down.

Like, we need to rebuild here.

And Dubas is one of the few guys who said, we can do both.

We can try to be competitive, which is what Fenway wanted to hear, but also start restocking the shelves.

And ultimately, Dubas got the job.

And he's actually this year pulling it up, by the way.

Yes, he is.

To your point, I mean, if you feel that strongly that you heard what I heard in terms of retool versus rebuild from Pelly, then I guess that's what the new person or people will, that'll be their marching orders.

Yeah, still early because, I mean, as Pelly himself said today, he hasn't yet picked up the phone and sought permission from teams to talk to people.

So once he starts doing that, then we start hearing different things on our end.

But, you know, what I'll say on Doug Armstrong, who should absolutely be near the top of the list for MLSC, is that I think there's some confusion in the Toronto market

that because he's stepping down as Blues GM that he's available.

He has signed a three-year extension with the Blues as president of hockey operations.

That doesn't mean that MLC shouldn't reach out and ask permission.

They absolutely should.