Pierre LeBrun

And if they don't, then I don't know what they're doing.

But he doesn't have an out in his deal.

It's not like he's sitting there because he's no longer GM as of July 1st that teams can drop in offers.

That's not what's happening here.

But

If we're going to take Keith Pele to his word that he's going to go after anyone that he feels is the right person for this job, then they should be reaching out to the Blues.

The real question is...

What is Blues owner Tom Stillman, how does he respond if the Leafs reach out?

You know, I mean, I think that the Blues are pretty excited about Doug Armstrong being a mentor and staying on to help new GM Alex Dean.

So the question is, is Doug Armstrong really available or not?

And I don't have an answer for you there.

Yeah, no, and listen, I think Mike Gillis is an interesting name to bring back from the past for the simple reason of this, that when you heard Peli talk about data-driven and AI, you're right, by the way, Brian, AI did come up, and talk about the modern approach to a front office.

Mike Gillis, in his day in Vancouver, whether you liked him or not, and he did rub some people the wrong way, Mike Gillis was forward-thinking.

He was trying to do things and thought about things that...

you know, in terms of changing the approach to running a hockey team.

And a lot of the words that I heard today from Pelley immediately made me think of the kind of things that Mike Gillis has always talked about over time.

So, you know, I do believe that Mike Gillis is a guy, for example, that will get a call from Keith Pelley through this process.

Whether it leads to anything, who knows?

But, yeah, there's another name.

That's true.