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Pieter Levels

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2088 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

Yeah. It's like software developers. If you want to get a job and there's like, you know, people making stuff like startups. And if you want to be entrepreneur, probably you maybe shouldn't.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

Man, this is my most controversial take, I think. And maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like there's frameworks now that raise money. They raise a lot of money. Like they raise $50 million, $100 million, $30 million. And the idea is that you need to make the developers, the new developers, like when you're 18 or 20 years old, right? Get them to use this framework and add a platform to it

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

Man, this is my most controversial take, I think. And maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like there's frameworks now that raise money. They raise a lot of money. Like they raise $50 million, $100 million, $30 million. And the idea is that you need to make the developers, the new developers, like when you're 18 or 20 years old, right? Get them to use this framework and add a platform to it

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

Man, this is my most controversial take, I think. And maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like there's frameworks now that raise money. They raise a lot of money. Like they raise $50 million, $100 million, $30 million. And the idea is that you need to make the developers, the new developers, like when you're 18 or 20 years old, right? Get them to use this framework and add a platform to it

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

like where the framework can, it's open source, but you probably should use the platform, which is paid to use it. And the cost of the platforms to host it are a thousand times higher than just hosting it on a simple AWS server or a VPS on DigitalOcean, right? So there's obviously a monetary incentive here.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

like where the framework can, it's open source, but you probably should use the platform, which is paid to use it. And the cost of the platforms to host it are a thousand times higher than just hosting it on a simple AWS server or a VPS on DigitalOcean, right? So there's obviously a monetary incentive here.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

like where the framework can, it's open source, but you probably should use the platform, which is paid to use it. And the cost of the platforms to host it are a thousand times higher than just hosting it on a simple AWS server or a VPS on DigitalOcean, right? So there's obviously a monetary incentive here.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

We want to get a lot of developers to use this technology, and then we need to charge them money because they're going to use it in startups, and then the startups can pay for the bills. But it kind of destroys the... the information out there about learning to code because they, you know, they pay YouTubers, they pay influencers, developer influencers.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

We want to get a lot of developers to use this technology, and then we need to charge them money because they're going to use it in startups, and then the startups can pay for the bills. But it kind of destroys the... the information out there about learning to code because they, you know, they pay YouTubers, they pay influencers, developer influencers.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

We want to get a lot of developers to use this technology, and then we need to charge them money because they're going to use it in startups, and then the startups can pay for the bills. But it kind of destroys the... the information out there about learning to code because they, you know, they pay YouTubers, they pay influencers, developer influencers.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

It's a big thing to like, and same thing what happens with like nutrition and fitness or something. Same thing happens in developing. They pay these influencers to promote the stuff, use it, make stuff with it, make demo products with it. And then a lot of people were like, wow, use this. And I started noticing this because when I would ship my stuff, people would ask me, what are you using?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

It's a big thing to like, and same thing what happens with like nutrition and fitness or something. Same thing happens in developing. They pay these influencers to promote the stuff, use it, make stuff with it, make demo products with it. And then a lot of people were like, wow, use this. And I started noticing this because when I would ship my stuff, people would ask me, what are you using?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

It's a big thing to like, and same thing what happens with like nutrition and fitness or something. Same thing happens in developing. They pay these influencers to promote the stuff, use it, make stuff with it, make demo products with it. And then a lot of people were like, wow, use this. And I started noticing this because when I would ship my stuff, people would ask me, what are you using?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

I would say, I would just PHP, jQuery, why does it matter? And people would start kind of attacking me, like, why are you not using this new technology, this new framework, this new thing? And I say, I don't know, because this PHP thing works and I don't really, I'm optimizing for anything, it just works.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

I would say, I would just PHP, jQuery, why does it matter? And people would start kind of attacking me, like, why are you not using this new technology, this new framework, this new thing? And I say, I don't know, because this PHP thing works and I don't really, I'm optimizing for anything, it just works.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

I would say, I would just PHP, jQuery, why does it matter? And people would start kind of attacking me, like, why are you not using this new technology, this new framework, this new thing? And I say, I don't know, because this PHP thing works and I don't really, I'm optimizing for anything, it just works.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

And I never understood like why, like I understand there's new technologies that are better and there should be improvement, but I'm very suspicious of money, just like lobbying. There's money in this developer framework scene. There's hundreds of millions that goes to ads or influencers or whatever. It can't all go to developers.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

And I never understood like why, like I understand there's new technologies that are better and there should be improvement, but I'm very suspicious of money, just like lobbying. There's money in this developer framework scene. There's hundreds of millions that goes to ads or influencers or whatever. It can't all go to developers.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

And I never understood like why, like I understand there's new technologies that are better and there should be improvement, but I'm very suspicious of money, just like lobbying. There's money in this developer framework scene. There's hundreds of millions that goes to ads or influencers or whatever. It can't all go to developers.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

You don't need so many developers for a framework and it's open source to make a lot of more money on these startups.