Pieter Levels
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first heard Aug 2024
last heard Aug 2024
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It's all jQuery. Do I still use jQuery?
It's PHP and jQuery. And SQLite.
It's because of WordPress, right? Because the blogs are- Yeah, that's true. Yeah. That's true. I'm seeing a revival now. People are getting sick of frameworks. Like all the JavaScript frameworks are so like, what do you call it, like wieldy. Like they're so, it takes so much work to just maintain this code. And then it updates to a new version. You need to change everything.
PHP just stays the same and works.
I think it's accidental because that's the thing I knew. Like I knew PHP, I knew HTML, CSS, you know, because you make websites. And... When my startup started taking off, I didn't have time to, I remember putting on my to-do list, like learn Node.js because it's important to switch, you know, because this obviously is a much better language than PHP. And I never learned it.
I never did it because I didn't have time. These things were growing like this and I was launching more projects and I never had time. It's like one day, you know, I'll start coding properly and I never got to it.
Yeah. It's like software developers. If you want to get a job and there's like, you know, people making stuff like startups. And if you want to be entrepreneur, probably you maybe shouldn't.
Man, this is my most controversial take, I think. And maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like there's frameworks now that raise money. They raise a lot of money. Like they raise $50 million, $100 million, $30 million. And the idea is that you need to make the developers, the new developers, like when you're 18 or 20 years old, right? Get them to use this framework and add a platform to it
like where the framework can, it's open source, but you probably should use the platform, which is paid to use it. And the cost of the platforms to host it are a thousand times higher than just hosting it on a simple AWS server or a VPS on DigitalOcean, right? So there's obviously a monetary incentive here.
We want to get a lot of developers to use this technology, and then we need to charge them money because they're going to use it in startups, and then the startups can pay for the bills. But it kind of destroys the... the information out there about learning to code because they, you know, they pay YouTubers, they pay influencers, developer influencers.
It's a big thing to like, and same thing what happens with like nutrition and fitness or something. Same thing happens in developing. They pay these influencers to promote the stuff, use it, make stuff with it, make demo products with it. And then a lot of people were like, wow, use this. And I started noticing this because when I would ship my stuff, people would ask me, what are you using?
I would say, I would just PHP, jQuery, why does it matter? And people would start kind of attacking me, like, why are you not using this new technology, this new framework, this new thing? And I say, I don't know, because this PHP thing works and I don't really, I'm optimizing for anything, it just works.
And I never understood like why, like I understand there's new technologies that are better and there should be improvement, but I'm very suspicious of money, just like lobbying. There's money in this developer framework scene. There's hundreds of millions that goes to ads or influencers or whatever. It can't all go to developers.
You don't need so many developers for a framework and it's open source to make a lot of more money on these startups.
PHP was not good at security for a while, but now it's good.
And it's the same thing with big corporations. 80% of the people don't do anything. It's like, it's not efficient. And if your benchmark is like people building stuff that actually gets done and like for society, right?
Like if we want to save time, we should probably use technologies that's simple, that's pragmatic, that works, that's not overly complicated, doesn't make your life like a living hell, you know?
I'm not saying you should code without a framework. You should use whatever you want, but yeah, I think it's suspicious, you know? And I think it's suspicious. When I talk about it on Twitter, there's this army comes out, you know? There's these framework armies. Man, something my gut tells me.
Yeah, and did you make money with it? Did you charge users? Is it a real business?
First of all, some don't look like you, right? But some do.
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