PJ Kirby

But it's the same with Zara Larson.

Zara Larson was in there?

She's been working for years.

and I've always been a Zara stan you know I love Zara and she was on like a talent show when she was a kid yeah and she's so talented but she was just she was struggling to find like her identity as an artist it was that and then someone started sharing those dolphin memes on TikTok so tell me about the dolphins because it's part of the aesthetic for the tour and stuff because someone shared these like dolphin pictures like multicoloured dolphins and over the top of it they'd say something really depressing but it would have symphony playing in the background

And then that was like a trend that happened.

And then people were finding out about Dara Larsson more.

And then she started releasing music.

And then what really did it for me, though, girls, I don't think it was the dolphins that got her out of the asylum.

She's a star.

And I think that goes for a lot of people who are saying are trapped in the key of asylum.

A lot of these artists are so talented, they just need their moment.

You know what I mean?

The minute she opened for Tame of Cray on tour, when Sarah Larson, when people saw her doing the opening numbers, they were like, this is the star.

This is someone who needs to be on their own tour.

And it was just a matter of time.

So I think...

You can learn from it, I think, in any walk of life.

If you're confident in your own ability, but maybe it's not happening for you right now, it is just a matter of time if you keep working hard.

Circumstance comes into it and everything.

I don't know.