PJ Vogt

And then I called a friend.

I mentioned in the first half when I was talking to Hannah that I had a friend who I text with about taboos.

You're probably picturing a pretty tawdry relationship right now, but it's just my friend Kalva.

Kalva Sane.

You may have heard him in another episode of Search Engine where we asked him, how am I supposed to find new music now that I'm old and irrelevant?

Kalva, welcome back.

PJ, I'm here.

I've been here.

I'm sorry I made you wait so long.

Finally.

So the reason that I wanted you talking here today, we text a lot.

You're, I would say, chronically open-minded to the point where presented with most rules, particularly most social rules, you're the person I know who's liable to ask questions

Why?

How come?

Are we sure?

Does that seem like a fair characterization?

I think that's a fair characterization.

So then, before we even begin, I just want to make sure that I know what page we're starting on.

Like, what is your feeling about people eating people?

Okay, so caliphate being caliphate is already a step ahead of me, defining some of our categories here.