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PJ Vogt

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

But I do have a plan for how this is going to go.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Well, not a plan, a menu.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Today, I'm going to serve you three stories of cannibalism.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

The amuse-bouche is a historical story, possibly the origin story of our modern fear of cannibals.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

For the main course, I have a contemporary story of a person eating a person.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

And for dessert, a mystery set in remote Papua New Guinea.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Okay, so the first story I told to Keltha, The Conquest.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Okay, so okay, this story happens alongside the Western entry into the Americas, and I think it is where we got the modern meme of cannibalism, like the ubiquitous cartoon image that Hannah and I talked about, this guy with a bone in his nose cooking an explorer in a steaming cauldron.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

That image, like the origin story of that image, I think I have a story of that for you.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Yes.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Okay.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

1493, Christopher Columbus lands in Guadalupe, which at the time he would call Santa Maria de Guadalupe.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

He's on his second voyage to the New World.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

According to this one book I read called Cannibalism, A Perfectly Natural History by Bill Shutt,

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Columbus's prime directive, like his mission from Spain, was to find gold in the islands.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

I don't know why this belief was propagated, but the Europeans believed that silver was found in cold places and gold was found in hot places.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

So according to their logic, it stood to reason this expedition was going to yield lots and lots of gold.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

So he arrives with an army of 17 ships, lots of well-armed men, and he reports back to his sponsors in Spain that there's this one group of native people called the Arawaks.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

And according to Columbus, these Arawaks, they are great.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

He writes that the Arawaks, quote, are fitted to be ruled and to be set to work, to cultivate the land and do all else that may be necessary.