Pliny the Liberator

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243 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Dec 2025 last heard 16 Dec

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It's it's fun to sort of dance around new techniques.
I think it's it's hard for Blue Team because they're they're sort of fighting against infinity, right?
It's like as as the surface area is ever expanding also, we're kind of in like a library of babbles situation.
where they're trying to
it restricted sections, but we keep finding different ways to move the ladders around in different ways faster and the longer ladders and the attackers sort of have the advantage as long as the surface area is ever expanding, right?
So I do think they're finding cleverer and cleverer ways to lock down particular areas sometimes, but I think it's at the expense of capability.
and creativity.
So there's some model providers that aren't prioritizing this and they seem to do better on benchmarks for sort of the model size, if you will.
Um and I think that's just a a side effect of the lobotomization that you get when you just add so many layers and layers, whether it's, you know, text classifiers or RLHF, yeah, synthetic data trained on
jailbreak inputs and outputs, there's always going to be a way to mutate.
And then the other issue is when
People try to connect this idea of guardrails to safety, like I don't like that at all.
I think that's a waste of time.
I think that any, you know, seasoned attacker is gonna very quickly just switch models and with open source just right on the tail of closed source, I don't really see the safety fight as being about locking down
on the latent space for XYZ area.
Yeah, yeah.
And so jailbreaking is similarly theatrical.
I think it's important.
It provides it allows people to explore deeper.
It's sort of like just a more efficient shovel, especially some of these prompt templates that let you go deep, right?
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