Pro-Abortion Atheist

No, I was in a very loving home, but I care very deeply about women's rights and LGBTQ rights, which I believe are being threatened.

No, I was in a very loving home, but I care very deeply about women's rights and LGBTQ rights, which I believe are being threatened.

A person who identifies as a woman.

A person who identifies as a woman.

No, that's the that's the first precept. Aristotle, a couch is a couch. We get to the first precept. You eventually ask, what is this? What is this? What is this? Fundamentally, your only answer can be this is this. Or are you suggesting two plus two equals five?

No, that's the that's the first precept. Aristotle, a couch is a couch. We get to the first precept. You eventually ask, what is this? What is this? What is this? Fundamentally, your only answer can be this is this. Or are you suggesting two plus two equals five?

That's not a question. Just if you had a sickness.

That's not a question. Just if you had a sickness.

Words have multiple definitions, so I'll agree with you. I'm sorry, what? I said words have multiple definitions, so I will agree with you. Someone just said, no, they don't. The word set has about eight different definitions to what it can mean.

Words have multiple definitions, so I'll agree with you. I'm sorry, what? I said words have multiple definitions, so I will agree with you. Someone just said, no, they don't. The word set has about eight different definitions to what it can mean.

We're talking about gender, not race. What's the difference? This is a red herring fallacy. We're talking about something entirely different.

We're talking about gender, not race. What's the difference? This is a red herring fallacy. We're talking about something entirely different.

Because that's actually one of the classified genders now, is that I am two-spirit. I think America is beautiful because it's a land of the free. It's where you choose who you want to be. So if you want to be that, it literally does not affect me. Go ahead. I could not care less.

Because that's actually one of the classified genders now, is that I am two-spirit. I think America is beautiful because it's a land of the free. It's where you choose who you want to be. So if you want to be that, it literally does not affect me. Go ahead. I could not care less.

Okay. And you'd probably agree that if a child had a disease, it would be within our rights to try and assist them. We don't want their children. Yeah. Exactly. So can you explain to me why a child who has been raped and is pregnant does not deserve an abortion?

Okay. And you'd probably agree that if a child had a disease, it would be within our rights to try and assist them. We don't want their children. Yeah. Exactly. So can you explain to me why a child who has been raped and is pregnant does not deserve an abortion?

I very much agree. I think arguing and shouting and screaming and blabber is getting us nowhere. I think intellectual conversation is getting us nowhere. So I thank you dearly for what you just said.

I very much agree. I think arguing and shouting and screaming and blabber is getting us nowhere. I think intellectual conversation is getting us nowhere. So I thank you dearly for what you just said.

Thank you so much. Charlie, may I shake your hand?

Thank you so much. Charlie, may I shake your hand?

I'm going to be fully honest. I do not know. Please inform me.

I'm going to be fully honest. I do not know. Please inform me.

Okay. I just also want to continue that I mean this in full sincerity. I'm not making fun of anyone. I'm a big advocate of the Second Amendment. I genuinely think that the right to bear arms is brilliant because if someone invades your home, if someone is threatening your life, surely you would want to vanquish them in order to protect your family. Is that fair?

Okay. I just also want to continue that I mean this in full sincerity. I'm not making fun of anyone. I'm a big advocate of the Second Amendment. I genuinely think that the right to bear arms is brilliant because if someone invades your home, if someone is threatening your life, surely you would want to vanquish them in order to protect your family. Is that fair?

Even for a 12-year-old who will die in childbirth?

Even for a 12-year-old who will die in childbirth?

I would say no. I would say that I'm a sort of, I believe in the work of John Locke. I believe that all humans are born good. And so I believe that, you know, if you've read the book, The Oresteia, it's this Greek story where violence necessitates violence necessitates violence. Fighting and fighting don't lead us to anything. And do you know how that book ends?

I would say no. I would say that I'm a sort of, I believe in the work of John Locke. I believe that all humans are born good. And so I believe that, you know, if you've read the book, The Oresteia, it's this Greek story where violence necessitates violence necessitates violence. Fighting and fighting don't lead us to anything. And do you know how that book ends?

It ends with Athena, goddess of wisdom, bringing democracy to the people, letting every voice be heard. That's pretty wonderful.

It ends with Athena, goddess of wisdom, bringing democracy to the people, letting every voice be heard. That's pretty wonderful.

Apply that now to the self-defense argument. Someone breaks into your house, starts beating up your son. Are you not going to shoot them? Hold on. It's not the same thing.

Apply that now to the self-defense argument. Someone breaks into your house, starts beating up your son. Are you not going to shoot them? Hold on. It's not the same thing.

No, because I think there's a certain utilitarian argument.

No, because I think there's a certain utilitarian argument.

But, but, but, but, you said the word baby, not the word thesis.

But, but, but, but, you said the word baby, not the word thesis.

Are you familiar with the IUD contraception and how it can eliminate an embryo after conception?

Are you familiar with the IUD contraception and how it can eliminate an embryo after conception?

The one that was brought up to you in the other Dean Winters video, the one I did see.

The one that was brought up to you in the other Dean Winters video, the one I did see.

So you're pro-contraception?

So you're pro-contraception?

I'm so sorry for going on a tangent, but I want to ask you philosophically, what separates you, the man, Charlie Kirk, from the animals? We are the speaking beings. Exactly. I could not agree more.

I'm so sorry for going on a tangent, but I want to ask you philosophically, what separates you, the man, Charlie Kirk, from the animals? We are the speaking beings. Exactly. I could not agree more.

Wonderful. So am I. You're a robot.

Wonderful. So am I. You're a robot.

Exactly, because I was actually going to clarify. Would you more say it's more rationality or some might even say experience?

Exactly, because I was actually going to clarify. Would you more say it's more rationality or some might even say experience?

But that has to be done practically.

But that has to be done practically.

But I would say it's action, wouldn't you? It's action and experience. Yeah. No. No.

But I would say it's action, wouldn't you? It's action and experience. Yeah. No. No.

Go further. I mean that I truly don't believe a person is a person until they commit an action, until they have thoughts. Because you said that –

Go further. I mean that I truly don't believe a person is a person until they commit an action, until they have thoughts. Because you said that –

But you mentally got me. I was like, oh, maybe.

But you mentally got me. I was like, oh, maybe.

But so, you know, I'm holding my hand.

But so, you know, I'm holding my hand.

Sure. Absolutely.

Sure. Absolutely.

I am sorry. But yes, you're right.

I am sorry. But yes, you're right.

That is the woman's choice. I'm a man. I cannot choose for her.

That is the woman's choice. I'm a man. I cannot choose for her.

Not particularly, no, because it's her decision.

Not particularly, no, because it's her decision.

There's this lovely lady who wants to speak real quick.

There's this lovely lady who wants to speak real quick.

I do not wish to antagonize you, but I don't see how that's relevant. I'm so sorry.

I do not wish to antagonize you, but I don't see how that's relevant. I'm so sorry.

So if the two entities are separate, then I can shoot a pregnant woman and the baby will be fine?

So if the two entities are separate, then I can shoot a pregnant woman and the baby will be fine?

Hello, Charlie. Yeah, I'm very looking forward to being here. So I just wanted to ask a question. It's based on a hypothetical, if that's all right. So let's say hypothetically you had some kind of disease and this disease could be very easily cured and you have health insurance. You're a taxpaying citizen. You do everything right. Surely it's been within your right to get that disease cured.

Hello, Charlie. Yeah, I'm very looking forward to being here. So I just wanted to ask a question. It's based on a hypothetical, if that's all right. So let's say hypothetically you had some kind of disease and this disease could be very easily cured and you have health insurance. You're a taxpaying citizen. You do everything right. Surely it's been within your right to get that disease cured.

Because a one-year-old can't kill its own mother. No, but remember, take that out of the equation. Say the mom's fine. No, I'm not taking it. Sorry, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but this is the truth. How many times do you think that? Birth is painful. Women scream and sweat, and there is blood everywhere during a birth. It is not a nice thing.

Because a one-year-old can't kill its own mother. No, but remember, take that out of the equation. Say the mom's fine. No, I'm not taking it. Sorry, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but this is the truth. How many times do you think that? Birth is painful. Women scream and sweat, and there is blood everywhere during a birth. It is not a nice thing.

I think it is up to the woman whether childbirth is a good thing because I'm not the one giving birth.

I think it is up to the woman whether childbirth is a good thing because I'm not the one giving birth.

Didn't you just say that this can't be applied to other aspects of life? But I begun this argument by saying, if you needed a cure for something and a doctor denied it to you, that would be an immoral action. You agreed with me.

Didn't you just say that this can't be applied to other aspects of life? But I begun this argument by saying, if you needed a cure for something and a doctor denied it to you, that would be an immoral action. You agreed with me.

Not... Really? Like... Okay.

Not... Really? Like... Okay.

I love you too. Yeah. I'm sorry for a while, but can I close with one thing? Surely you guys think that the best thing for a child is to be raised in a loving home.

I love you too. Yeah. I'm sorry for a while, but can I close with one thing? Surely you guys think that the best thing for a child is to be raised in a loving home.

So to clarify, you're okay with a child growing up in an abusive home?

So to clarify, you're okay with a child growing up in an abusive home?

That's conjecture. That same argument could be applied to a fetus that's a subject of rape. It's the woman's choice regardless. No, I know.

That's conjecture. That same argument could be applied to a fetus that's a subject of rape. It's the woman's choice regardless. No, I know.

Can I just say, can you just say yes, just for the sake of clarity?

Can I just say, can you just say yes, just for the sake of clarity?