Professor Catherine Ball

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The Science Show · Fossil graveyards an archive of past climate and ecology · 17 Jul 2026 podcast

And since we've had gas lamps and electrical lights, our biology has been turned into a money-making opportunity for corporates.

We no longer live according to our biology in many ways, but one of the things technology can do is save our sleep.

Well, this is the history side of things, right?

So if you are a person listening to this and you are one of these people that does a double sleep, you have been written about by authors and poets for centuries.

I think Chaucer even refers to it.

I don't have two sleeps.

I have two small children, which means I have about six or eight sleeps.

And when they're newborn, you probably have about 10 or 12 micro sleeps.

And the point is, you need to sleep enough so that you feel rested.

And actually, the biggest key here is routine.

So even if you wake up after three or four hours, build the routine of going, you know what?

I'm obviously a double sleeper.

Chaucer wrote about people like me.

It's all right.

I can go back to sleep now.

It's not a point of stress.

Whereas if you wake up and start getting anxious about your sleep, well, that's a whole new thing called orthosomnia.

which is a type of anxiety formed around people worrying about their sleep so much that they then actually don't get the sleep that they need.

Do you know what I mean?

We have apps for that now.

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