Professor Mariana Mazzucato
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It's how do we actually make sure that it improves the lives of working people.
So caveats.
Did it work perfectly?
Was it a really important change?
Do we do it here in the U.K.
So it's actually the opposite in terms of making it kind of fuzzier.
So the targets need to be super concrete.
Missions are about saying, let's stop blah, blah, blah about climate or health and well-being or digital divide.
Turn it into something as inspirational and concrete so we can measure did you achieve it or not as going to the moon and back in a short amount of time.
As soon as you say that...
You also need to make sure that it is intersectoral.
In a country where we have so little business investment, we are 28th in the OECD.
Forget public investment.
That's all people obsess about.
Private investment.
How do you use these concrete, not fuzzy targets in an intersectoral way?
The point is not like, oh, ask everyone what they think, right?