Professor Paul Mullen

So it's the first time someone had committed one of these massacres and they became famous.

And within literally a couple of months, another one of these massacres occurred.

And the person wrote that he was seeking to replicate the Texas massacre.

This is where it all starts.

This is where it begins to become a part of our culture.

Absolutely.

I mean, they've become part of the landscape of the 21st century.

Not entirely, for most.

You can separate them a little.

I mean, for a while, there was a spate of workplace killings in America, which were motivated somewhat differently.

And now, of course, we have the problem of distinguishing between those motivated by terrorism and those motivated by the, if you like, the resentment and the rage and the desire for suicide.

and for fame, which characterizes, as it were, the main group.

There is.

A good case to examine for this, there was a major in the medical corps in Texas, back to Texas again,

who, his history was interesting.

He was the child of, he was born in America.

I'm not going to mention his name.

I don't mention their name ever.

Yes, he was a Muslim.

He was in the medical corps.