Professor Toby Murray
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But what we haven't yet seen is a massive explosion in the number of data breaches or hacking campaigns against companies.
And that's the sort of thing that we would expect to see if the AI models were being used on a large scale to automate hacking.
That said...
Many of us within the cybersecurity industry and academia are expecting that we will see an uptick in the amount of hacking going on because these AI models make it really easy for anyone that doesn't even have very strong hacking skills themselves to be able to carry out advanced hacking.
We're seeing a lot of talk in the industry at the moment around AI-enabled cybersecurity defense so that the defenders should be deploying AIs to help guard against the AI-enabled hackers.
Yeah, yeah.
But I would argue that's not really where organizations should be investing if they haven't already got their basics right.
If you don't have your basic cybersecurity posture and hygiene in place, then no amount of advanced AI cyber defense is going to help you.
When we've looked at the major breaches that we've seen previously, the ones that have become dinner table conversation across Australia like Optus and Medibank and more recently Origin and so on and so forth, the kinds of data that are involved here are the sorts of sensitive data about people that is valuable either because it allows you to impersonate them and steal their identity, so that's like
identity document information like we saw in the case of the Optus breach a couple of years ago or it's data that's inherently sensitive and personal like we saw in the case of the Medibank breach where the hackers there were trying to extort individuals and threatening and in some cases did reveal very very sensitive information about people's medical histories in that case it's
very sorts of sensitive information that we all write down in the census for the benefit of the statisticians at the Bureau of Statistics.
And that information is incredibly useful to government for planning and for the various purposes that ABS uses it for.
But it's also potentially very valuable to hackers as well.
The most important way to keep that kind of information safe is to separate out the really sensitive parts from the less sensitive parts.
And so the first thing then is making sure that the systems that it's being submitted into
have got very strong protection on them.
And then the second thing is making sure the data does not stay on those internet connected systems any longer than is absolutely necessary and that it's quickly then taken off of those internet connected systems and put onto separate systems that are completely disconnected from the internet so that only the less sensitive parts of the data then need to stay on systems that are connected to the internet and potentially vulnerable to attack.
Yeah, I would think that Australians should feel confident engaging in the census, answering accurately and knowing that the ABS will safeguard their information.
We have seen previous incidents of some unreliability during previous censuses, like the 2016 census, where the system was offline for a few hours during the census.
But having a system that goes down because it's overloaded,
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