Propaganda
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first heard Jan 2025
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So there's this longing of being like, man, this we used to have a place to be in the world. And you feel like you're looking around. Everybody else got a place to be in the world. This is born from despair and rightfully so. But then there's this other type of Zionism that is more like this idea of reclaiming an enthusiasm about our heritage and our culture.
We need to be the same way I would be loud and black. We need to be black as hell out here. We need to reclaim, take up space and be ourselves rather than shrinking ourselves. I want to reclaim all that it is for us to be us. Now, as a minority, that shouldn't be hard for you to understand. I mean, that's us sitting here in America.
And then you got the Republicans being like, well, you're American first. And I'm like, nah, nigga, I'm black. I got my red, black and green on the wall. You know, it's the Latinos flying their Mexican flags. And like, nah, we who we are. You feel me? And you're like, well, you're American. You know, it's you're a no savo kid.
You know, when you finally discover the concept of Aztlan, you want to know a little about your own heritage. Yeah, you American. You know, I mean, you from East Los Angeles. But you want to reclaim your history, your heritage, your language. You want to learn Aztec dances. It's like, so there's that version also.
So in that sense, it'd be weird to you when you like, you're like, yo, like, yo, we're Jews. You're like, fool, I'm German. It's like, nigga, you French? Like, word? These people don't love you? Like, why you identify as that? You know, so there's, you see that? as a lens of Zionism. So you have these ideas happening all around the same sort of time and idea with the same term, Zion.
So it could be seen as somebody that's like, yo, I want to learn our ancient language. I want to learn our practices. I want to do the Shabbat. I want to bring back. It became this umbrella term for just what it meant to reclaim your culture, reclaim your identity, reclaim the fullness of what y'all are. And then, there's the geopolitical idea.
Now, this geopolitical idea borrowed from all of these particular concepts. And if you read the writings of Theodor Herzl and a lot of the people involved in this, They were all bright eyed about the idea that like, oh, this is going to be a colonial takeover of Palestine. You have to remove the indigenous population for this to happen because there's no way they're going to give it to me.
And there were certain ways they tried to do it. They tried to do it peacefully. One way they said was, well, first of all, let's go talk to Britain. Because remember, the British Empire actually drew the partition. The British Empire is the one that drew the line between Israel and Palestine because, remember, it used to belong to them.
Another idea that the Zionists had was, yo, let's go talk to the Turkish Empire, right? Because remember, the Ottomans were there before the British. And they was like, okay, so if you let us be a government, how about we pay all the debts? Well, what if we pay y'all's debts?
They were trying with, matter of fact, Israel, the location wasn't even their first choice because they was like, this is a little too complicated. They thought about going to Africa. They looked at a couple of different places as to where to land this geopolitical idea of Zionism. I'm telling this out of order. Let me back up.
So the idea that like, it's just a myth that the Zionists were not aware of the Palestinian Arab population. They were well aware of it. But the question is, What to do with that information? Because, yeah, as Jewish as Herzl was, he's also a European. So that like he saw the Arabs as barbaric, like that they were. I mean, it's just there's no other way around it.
they were well aware that you are going to have to displace people to build a nation like this. So that was not... They knew, right? Now, again, I'm talking about the geopolitical idea of Zionism. But their idea was like, surely y'all can see that we're not a big empire. We're not here. We're just looking for a place to be. And since we're from here anyway, this shouldn't be... A problem.
So, yeah. So like I said, Herzl went to the went to the British. He went to the Ottoman Empire and he asked them like, yo, can we just go settle? Keep in mind is like European Jews had been moving to Tel Aviv for a while. You know, they actually formed the city of Tel Aviv. Those were Jewish settlers from Israel that's formed the city of Tel Aviv. This is well before Israel became a state.
So they had already been moving. Now they were just like, we just need legitimacy. So how about we buy it from the Ottomans? And the emperor of the Ottoman Empire was like, bro, I can't sell you land. It belongs to the people. And they fought to conquer this place. I'm not even finna just... Just sell it to you.
And not only did he not sell it to him, he started building policy to make sure that they can't just be immigrating and just buying up Palestinian land. He was like, I'm not really I'm not really here for this. And like, why would I welcome like a large religious minority into my empire? You might take it over. So, like I said, he was like, I can't look. They not just letting us come.
Now they restricting our thing, our movement. He even like I said, he went back to the British Empire, asked for a spot in East Africa. Like, can we just and the Jews back home? It was like, nigga. We're going back to Zion. The hell you talking about East Africa for? Herzl's like, bro, I'm trying, right? So eventually they found the city of Tel Aviv.
They create their own, like anybody else, like you create a Chinatown, you create your own community. Then them niggas got organized. Now, the timeline I'm telling you this, like I said, remember he had this first idea in 1897. So this is all during the times between like World War I, World War II.
Remember, Britain didn't take over until 1917 because that's why he was building with the Ottoman Empire dudes. And then once they was gone, once Britain took over, 1917, we're seeing the end of World War I, right? You're thinking maybe this was a new world and then all hell broke loose.
with the nazi empire and at that point once the nazi thing started happening it was like oh we gotta go like this we can't be playing games we trying to play nice like like that the nazi thing kicked this mug into high gear so now by 1947 it's like it now it's like the jews are like a third of the population in in palestine at the time right So so now it's getting a little itchy.
You know, I'm saying like now y'all just y'all just over here. And if you are Arab nation, you like, OK, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. OK, why we got to lose our home because of stuff Europe did. Why are we paying the price? It's like I feel you. You know, I'm saying like that's terrible what you're going through. But like, why you got to come?
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