Quincy Larson

care one way or the other like we're here we're thinking over longer time horizons and i i think it'll correct over time like the the number of developer openings is back to where it was around like 2000 uh 2020 like pre-pandemic during the pandemic and like everything like there was tons of money and interest rates were really low and there was like stimulus and all this stuff and uh interest spiked

care one way or the other like we're here we're thinking over longer time horizons and i i think it'll correct over time like the the number of developer openings is back to where it was around like 2000 uh 2020 like pre-pandemic during the pandemic and like everything like there was tons of money and interest rates were really low and there was like stimulus and all this stuff and uh interest spiked

Free Code Camp, there were days where we were getting more than 2 million visits a day or something like that. We had a single article that was just blowing up and getting 10 plus million views or something like that. It was just a collection of free online university courses. But that...

Free Code Camp, there were days where we were getting more than 2 million visits a day or something like that. We had a single article that was just blowing up and getting 10 plus million views or something like that. It was just a collection of free online university courses. But that...

had its moment and we were going viral, so to speak, as the pandemic was going viral and trapping everybody in their homes and stuff. And so, yeah, absolutely. That was like a huge year for us. And now we're kind of like having this regression to a mean. But the difference now is the attitude, like the vibe is different now in 2024 than it was in 2022.

had its moment and we were going viral, so to speak, as the pandemic was going viral and trapping everybody in their homes and stuff. And so, yeah, absolutely. That was like a huge year for us. And now we're kind of like having this regression to a mean. But the difference now is the attitude, like the vibe is different now in 2024 than it was in 2022.

And I think a lot of that is because employers are they overhired because they just wanted to like grab a whole bunch of talent and hoard it. And that was like, like, we've got all this talent. If we need it, we can we can use it. We have plenty of cash like Apple, Google, like all these giant corporations have tons of cash. They don't know what to spend it on. So they were spending it on talent.

And I think a lot of that is because employers are they overhired because they just wanted to like grab a whole bunch of talent and hoard it. And that was like, like, we've got all this talent. If we need it, we can we can use it. We have plenty of cash like Apple, Google, like all these giant corporations have tons of cash. They don't know what to spend it on. So they were spending it on talent.

bringing a bunch of people on that they didn't necessarily need and just doing lots of speculative projects. But what happened was when the going got a little bit tougher, they're like, Hey, let's, let's cut some of these people loose. And so the market was flooded with, you know, mid-level engineers and it became extremely difficult as an entry-level engineer to find really anything.

bringing a bunch of people on that they didn't necessarily need and just doing lots of speculative projects. But what happened was when the going got a little bit tougher, they're like, Hey, let's, let's cut some of these people loose. And so the market was flooded with, you know, mid-level engineers and it became extremely difficult as an entry-level engineer to find really anything.

And so that sentiment spread. And I think it's definitely harder to get a job now than it was in 2022 as a And people I think are blaming AI and like the jobs being automated, but what's really at fault, like the real cause and AI may be a contributor, at least in diluted managers minds, they may think like, Oh, he's just late. Right.

And so that sentiment spread. And I think it's definitely harder to get a job now than it was in 2022 as a And people I think are blaming AI and like the jobs being automated, but what's really at fault, like the real cause and AI may be a contributor, at least in diluted managers minds, they may think like, Oh, he's just late. Right.

A lot of people just looked at Elon Musk and said, Oh, he fired everybody. And like,

A lot of people just looked at Elon Musk and said, Oh, he fired everybody. And like,

we're still up yeah like twitter's still up but i can tell you as a frequent user of twitter that it is a shadow of his former self and that i see a lot of nastiness on twitter that i didn't see before and you know the features have not been like super i don't think it's a super company frankly uh not that it was ever a world yeah company mark zuckerberg used to joke that twitter was a bunch of like a clown car that accidentally crashed into a gold mine

we're still up yeah like twitter's still up but i can tell you as a frequent user of twitter that it is a shadow of his former self and that i see a lot of nastiness on twitter that i didn't see before and you know the features have not been like super i don't think it's a super company frankly uh not that it was ever a world yeah company mark zuckerberg used to joke that twitter was a bunch of like a clown car that accidentally crashed into a gold mine

And if you read the book, Hatching Twitter, it's like what not to do as a leader, basically. But my point is, a lot of people look to people like Elon Musk, who's just like, fire everybody. And so you see this hurting. You see all these managers laying people off. And even Apple, which historically never laid people off, not since the 1990s had they done a layoff. And they laid people off.

And if you read the book, Hatching Twitter, it's like what not to do as a leader, basically. But my point is, a lot of people look to people like Elon Musk, who's just like, fire everybody. And so you see this hurting. You see all these managers laying people off. And even Apple, which historically never laid people off, not since the 1990s had they done a layoff. And they laid people off.

You know something's bad when Apple, which has, I don't know, more than $100 billion in cash that it's just holding, And it's not because it's like it's because they overhired, in my opinion, and because now the cost of capital is much higher and interest rates have changed. And there's a lot more uncertainty with AI.

You know something's bad when Apple, which has, I don't know, more than $100 billion in cash that it's just holding, And it's not because it's like it's because they overhired, in my opinion, and because now the cost of capital is much higher and interest rates have changed. And there's a lot more uncertainty with AI.