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Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz

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Ten Minute Halacha
Marrying Somebody With The Same Name As Your Parent

It's a normal name

Ten Minute Halacha
Marrying Somebody With The Same Name As Your Parent

and your father is not around the Torah doesn't know where the Rambam gets this from he says he says it's a tema that he says that and it seems that the Torah fully disagrees with this and he holds that you're even allowed to call somebody else by their name in front of your father which would mean that the person who married a girl with the same name as his mother or the girl who married a guy with the same name as her father would be able to refer to her husband by his name even in front of the father it sounds like from the Torah

Ten Minute Halacha
Marrying Somebody With The Same Name As Your Parent

The Radvaz on the Rambam also doesn't know where the Rambam got it from, and he writes, that if it's an unusual name, it's going to look like you're calling your father, and that's going to be a Zilusa.

Ten Minute Halacha
Marrying Somebody With The Same Name As Your Parent

So the Gura says, I have a simple Maramakom for the Rambam, I can tell you where the Rambam got it from.

Ten Minute Halacha
Marrying Somebody With The Same Name As Your Parent

He got it from Abaye.

Ten Minute Halacha
Marrying Somebody With The Same Name As Your Parent

Abaye's name was Nachmeni.

Ten Minute Halacha
Marrying Somebody With The Same Name As Your Parent

Rabbah called him Abaye because his father's name was Nachmeni.

Ten Minute Halacha
Marrying Somebody With The Same Name As Your Parent

And everyone also called him Abaye except for Rabbah who would call him Nachmeni.

Ten Minute Halacha
Marrying Somebody With The Same Name As Your Parent

Everyone else called him Abaye just out of covet for Rabbah who raised him.

Ten Minute Halacha
Marrying Somebody With The Same Name As Your Parent

Because Rabbah was Rabbah bar Nachmeni.

Ten Minute Halacha
Marrying Somebody With The Same Name As Your Parent

It's a reference to Rashi in Gittin, Davlam, and Dalam Beis that Abaye was called that because he was raised by Rabbah bar Nachmeni even though his real name was Abaye.

Ten Minute Halacha
Marrying Somebody With The Same Name As Your Parent

And he was later also named after Nachmeni, Rabbah's father.

Ten Minute Halacha
Marrying Somebody With The Same Name As Your Parent

So that's exactly how that happened.

Ten Minute Halacha
Marrying Somebody With The Same Name As Your Parent

Which was his real name?

Ten Minute Halacha
Marrying Somebody With The Same Name As Your Parent

Was Nachman his real name or was Abaye his real name?

Ten Minute Halacha
Marrying Somebody With The Same Name As Your Parent

How do we pass him?

Ten Minute Halacha
Marrying Somebody With The Same Name As Your Parent

You have someone else who has the same name as your parents and you're trying to call them.

Ten Minute Halacha
Marrying Somebody With The Same Name As Your Parent

So Shulchan Aruch writes, He implies that there is no Yisr whatsoever if it's a normal name.

Ten Minute Halacha
Marrying Somebody With The Same Name As Your Parent

But he also implies that if it's an unusual name, it's Asr ibn Shalom befanim.

Ten Minute Halacha
Marrying Somebody With The Same Name As Your Parent

That it all depends, normal name or unusual.