Rachel Deloach Williams
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She owed me more money than I made in a year. So pay me my money.
She owed me more money than I made in a year. So pay me my money.
I learn that there is an ongoing investigation into Anna Delvey, whose real name is Anna Sorokin.
I learn that there is an ongoing investigation into Anna Delvey, whose real name is Anna Sorokin.
Yes. If she did this to me and I was her friend, she would do it to anybody. And I just wanted to protect other people.
Yes. If she did this to me and I was her friend, she would do it to anybody. And I just wanted to protect other people.
She had asked if we could get together, so I asked her if she could meet me at a restaurant in Los Angeles, and we set a time.
She had asked if we could get together, so I asked her if she could meet me at a restaurant in Los Angeles, and we set a time.
I was surprised. I was still afraid. I was afraid she'd find out that it was me.
I was surprised. I was still afraid. I was afraid she'd find out that it was me.
It just really exemplified how focused she is on vanity and narcissism and putting on a show.
It just really exemplified how focused she is on vanity and narcissism and putting on a show.
It was really hard. I didn't look at her until I was on the stand and was asked to identify the defendant. And then when I did look at her, she was smirking at me. I had a friend who turned out to be not at all who she said she was.
It was really hard. I didn't look at her until I was on the stand and was asked to identify the defendant. And then when I did look at her, she was smirking at me. I had a friend who turned out to be not at all who she said she was.
I understand the word trauma is relative. To have someone that I had put so much goodwill into turn out to just be like a liar and who had willfully hurt me was very painful.
I understand the word trauma is relative. To have someone that I had put so much goodwill into turn out to just be like a liar and who had willfully hurt me was very painful.
I understand that, but this isn't something that was worth it to me. This was not my plan. This is not something I would recommend for anybody.
I understand that, but this isn't something that was worth it to me. This was not my plan. This is not something I would recommend for anybody.
Oh, that was devastating. It was devastating to have taken the witness stand and to have felt so exposed and to have shared so publicly something that was so deeply personal and painful for me was extremely hard. And then to have that come out as the takeaway was extremely upsetting.
Oh, that was devastating. It was devastating to have taken the witness stand and to have felt so exposed and to have shared so publicly something that was so deeply personal and painful for me was extremely hard. And then to have that come out as the takeaway was extremely upsetting.
Ultimately, thank goodness American Express did protect me from the hotel charge, which was the bulk of the expenses.
Ultimately, thank goodness American Express did protect me from the hotel charge, which was the bulk of the expenses.
I am relieved. I think it's appropriate she's doing time for having committed crimes. I do think that she will continue to manipulate other people for the rest of her life.
I am relieved. I think it's appropriate she's doing time for having committed crimes. I do think that she will continue to manipulate other people for the rest of her life.
Absolutely, in prison, yes. I think she has a problem with authority. I don't suspect that will change in prison or in the future.
Absolutely, in prison, yes. I think she has a problem with authority. I don't suspect that will change in prison or in the future.
I met her out one night in New York. I was out with friends and she just joined us late that evening. Do you regret you met her? Absolutely. I certainly wish I had never met her.
I met her out one night in New York. I was out with friends and she just joined us late that evening. Do you regret you met her? Absolutely. I certainly wish I had never met her.
What were your first impressions? She was slightly offbeat. She was quirky. Her voice was high pitched. She had a hard to place accent. And there was something about her you kind of just wanted to watch because you couldn't put your finger on it.
What were your first impressions? She was slightly offbeat. She was quirky. Her voice was high pitched. She had a hard to place accent. And there was something about her you kind of just wanted to watch because you couldn't put your finger on it.
She and I spent some time going to dinners and hanging out. During that time, I learned that she was working on an art foundation, club, restaurant, just everything. And the concept was very interesting and impressive, and she'd referred to this family trust she had, which I didn't pry about, but it sort of informed my understanding of her.
She and I spent some time going to dinners and hanging out. During that time, I learned that she was working on an art foundation, club, restaurant, just everything. And the concept was very interesting and impressive, and she'd referred to this family trust she had, which I didn't pry about, but it sort of informed my understanding of her.
People have asked, were there red flags? I never questioned that she was who she said she was. I never had reason to, and I wouldn't have thought that way.
People have asked, were there red flags? I never questioned that she was who she said she was. I never had reason to, and I wouldn't have thought that way.
Since Anna was a German citizen, she needed to leave every three months in order to reset the visa. And instead of going back home to Germany, she suggested we take a trip somewhere warm.
Since Anna was a German citizen, she needed to leave every three months in order to reset the visa. And instead of going back home to Germany, she suggested we take a trip somewhere warm.
She said that she wanted to make a documentary while we were there about her art foundation and its creation. And she sort of framed it within this business expense. Cheers. Cheers.
She said that she wanted to make a documentary while we were there about her art foundation and its creation. And she sort of framed it within this business expense. Cheers. Cheers.
Oh, absolutely. It was, I mean, it was amazing until it wasn't.
Oh, absolutely. It was, I mean, it was amazing until it wasn't.
There was just this insane pressure and tension in the room. I was very aware of us being young women in a foreign country. I just didn't know what to do.
There was just this insane pressure and tension in the room. I was very aware of us being young women in a foreign country. I just didn't know what to do.
And the men say, do you have a credit card? So I look at Anna, and she's like, can we just use it for now?
And the men say, do you have a credit card? So I look at Anna, and she's like, can we just use it for now?
She owed me more money than I made in a year.
She owed me more money than I made in a year.
I'm thinking this is a rich girl who has never had to deal with monthly bills, who just doesn't understand what an urgent situation I'm in. You know, I am late with my rent. I'm late with my credit card payments. Every night I'm awake in bed thinking, oh, this is serious. I'm, like, in a lot of trouble.
I'm thinking this is a rich girl who has never had to deal with monthly bills, who just doesn't understand what an urgent situation I'm in. You know, I am late with my rent. I'm late with my credit card payments. Every night I'm awake in bed thinking, oh, this is serious. I'm, like, in a lot of trouble.
No. How was she responding? She had a billion and one excuses. I was suspicious at that point.
No. How was she responding? She had a billion and one excuses. I was suspicious at that point.