Rachel Hollis
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279 appearances
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3 series
first heard May 2025
last heard 6 Jun
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Seriously. It's so innocent when we do it. It really is so innocent. You're like, holy crap, this team has worked our butts off. We got to tell people we're doing this stuff. But it puts a target on your back. It really does. And I think... I hate that it's the case because I don't think it's the same for men who are entrepreneurs and who are building like people are inspired by that.
But it's also like this is the game as it exists today. I hope it's not the same when my daughter gets older, but this is the game. And so if you want to play the game and you want to succeed at the highest levels, you have to understand what's going to allow you to keep doing that.
And I know that there are people who get really frustrated by that because you're like, no, you should break the glass ceiling and speak out against this. And it's like, yes, but also there's a point at which that trying to do that starts to go in opposition of what you're trying to achieve as an entrepreneur. Just hold space for that as you're building this massive thing.
Right, right. Yeah. We do it too because women are so often underestimated in business. So we want to say, oh, but wait, I've built an eight-figure company. I have 60 employees. Like I've done these because you want to like legitimize yourself. But then simultaneously, I think people just the framework is they tend to hear that as bragging and you're not trying to brag.
You're more just trying to share your story. But yeah, I just think. Oh, I feel like such a like cheesy, but like be careful, be thoughtful.
Gosh, first of all, you're not alone. That's so many people. But I think that if you're feeling like that right now, you really need to study more successful entrepreneurs. Because if you study more successful entrepreneurs, you're going to find failures at the greatest, most massive levels. I promise you failures that are way bigger than what you've just gone through.
And the people whose names we know, it's because they stood up and went again. I sat down with Alex Hormozy a month or two ago, and he was talking about how many times he's failed. And if you follow his journey at all, you hear all these stories. It's like four times he's had these massive failures where he's been not just failed, but someone else has taken all of his money kind of thing. Yeah.
Where it would be so easy to get so bitter about that and to be like, see, like people are bad. The world's out to get me. I'll never succeed. And I asked him, I'm like, how on earth do you stand back up and go again when this happens for the fourth time? Not the first, the fourth. And he's like, well, because I figure at this point, I at least know what not to do.
I actually have a lot more information than I had previously. I'm back at zero, but I'm not at zero in terms of knowledge. So now I'm like, okay, I know how to build because I've done that before. And I know the pitfalls because I've fallen into them. He really sees that experience as this beautiful level up instead of as if he's done something wrong.
So just study other people and listen to other people's stories because you're going to hear that this is part of the journey. Failure is part of the path to success, period. And every time you reach a new level, you fail at new levels. Every single time you get to a new level, you're going to encounter ways that you're going to mess up or lose money or lose time or hire the wrong person.
It's just what happens. But if you can learn from that and keep going, keep pushing forward, you are so much further along than 90% of people who encounter a hardship and give up.
Yeah, I went to a year of college. And I'm going to use air quotes because it was an acting conservatory. So it wasn't even like legit college. How do you think about college now? You have kids. Do you encourage them to go to college? I encourage my kids to go to college. My oldest is 18, so he is about to choose.
By the end of this week, he will know all the places he got into and where he's going to decide to go. Thank you. And I encourage them to go for two reasons. One, because I think college gives you four more years before you have to be a responsible adult. And I think we all wish we had that. So I love that they can have this time to experiment and learn who they are with a bit of a safety net.
The other reason that I encourage them to go to college is because they won't have to pay for it. I work really hard to make a really beautiful life. And that means that my kids won't have to pay for school. But if my kids did have to pay for school, I think I'd have a completely different perspective on it. I know that it is possible to be incredibly successful without going to college.
If you want to be a doctor, Yeah. If you want to be a lawyer, like there are certain things you need to do to get that accreditation, but lots of other things. I feel like you can be very successful in this life learning as you go through apprenticeships, learning through online. There's so much freaking information that you can get online for free.
I would never encourage someone to go to college if it was going to put them into debt. That makes no sense to me.
Well, I looked at moments in my life where I felt like I had had what Oprah calls the aha moment, when I had had a moment of like, oh God, how did I not see that before? So there's one in the book for this talking about being a manager of people and being an entrepreneur. So this one will maybe resonate with the audience. But I had an employee at the time that I was really struggling with.
I was trying to figure out how to be a better manager because I was like, it must be me. If I could better manage this person, then we wouldn't be having these problems. And so I was trying to become a better manager and I was reading a ton of books and I was watching all the YouTube videos I could find. And I happened to find this YouTube video, super old school, from early 2000s.
And this guy was talking about hiring and firing people. And I think probably my fatal flaw as a manager of people since I first started my business is I don't want anyone to be mad at me. I want to be like a nice person and I give people way too many chances. And then the work really suffers.
And then the quality of your team's work overall suffers because everyone else on the team is like, well, you let that person get away with coming three hours late. So I was watching this video and he said, would you hire them again today?
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