Rachel Madel
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5,936 appearances
38 recordings
1 series
first heard May 2024
last heard 21 May
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And I'm like, well, let's talk about it.
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Like, because I think most people don't understand the complexities of eye tracking and all the things that have to go into being successful when you're using eye gaze and eye tracking.
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Um, you know, and
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I mean, I think also what I've learned from listening to adult AAC users who have come on this podcast is that the systems can evolve over time and we should really we should be the ones who are introducing all the different options to an individual so that they can be a part of the decision-making process.
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And, you know, if we just jumped and say, like, yes, eye tracking, let's go.
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down this path, but we've never exposed students to, you know, head tracking, switch use, like anything like that, then we're really not exposing
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both the individual themselves but also the family to all the other potential options.
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And I think that that's something that, especially if you're responsible for AAC assessments and that process, um, doing your due diligence in that sense, um, I think becomes really important.
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The other thing I'll share, which I think um I've been in situations in my clinical work that perhaps are frustrating to families initially, is that even if we are going to go down the path of eye tracking and eye gaze, having some type of um
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Paper-based or backup AAC system like partner assisted scanning is such an integral foundational skill to have.
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Because even when I have eye tracking students, and I have one I'm thinking about in particular, and you know, he is really proficient at eye gaze, but there's times of his day, especially when he's at home, where he is laying on the ground and
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Living his best life and his eye tracking system is, you know, mounted to his wheelchair.
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And so in that situation, like, how does he communicate?
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And up until that family coming to my practice, like they didn't have another means of communication for him.
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And so it just becomes super important to establish something reliable that is consistent.
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Um, you know, the other
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thing that makes me really prioritize partner assisted scanning for kids is that eye tracking is really fatiguing.
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And so at the end of the day, I oftentimes we'll see a lot of my students who use eye gaze, they they're not really that chatty and it's because they're tired.
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And if we can have another communication system available um that you know the family feels really well versed and practiced in.
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Um, I'm just like a big advocate of of the partner assisted scanning because I just think it's it's always reliable.
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