Rachel Martin

Jonathan Goldstein, it's been such a pleasure.

You can hear Jonathan on the newest season of his amazing show, Heavyweight.

Thank you so much.

Thanks so much for listening.

If you liked this episode, I think you would also dig my interview with Jonathan's former boss and host of This American Life, Ira Glass.

Ira was super open and honest and way funnier than I expected.

Check it out.

This episode was produced by Lee Hale and edited by Dave Blanchard.

It was mastered by Patrick Murray and Jimmy Keeley.

Wildcard's executive producer is Yolanda Sangweni.

Our theme music is by Ramteen Arabloui.

You can reach out to us at wildcard at npr.org.

We're going to shuffle the deck and be back with more next week.

Talk to you then.

The best kind of celebrity interview is one where you find out that the person who made a thing you love also thinks in a way that you love.

The best kind of celebrity interview is one where you find out that the person who made a thing you love also thinks in a way that you love.

The best kind of celebrity interview is one where you find out that the person who made a thing you love also thinks in a way that you love.

I don't want to be where the people are. I just don't. I'm Rachel Martin. Listen to The Wild Card Podcast, only from NPR.

I don't want to be where the people are. I just don't. I'm Rachel Martin. Listen to The Wild Card Podcast, only from NPR.

I don't want to be where the people are. I just don't. I'm Rachel Martin. Listen to The Wild Card Podcast, only from NPR.