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Best Of: The Innovation Of 'I Love Lucy' / Mark Hamill

Sat, 07 Jun 2025

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Playing Ricky Ricardo on I Love Lucy, made Desi Arnaz a star. Behind the scenes, he created what became standard procedures for producing, shooting, lighting and broadcasting TV sitcoms. Author Todd Purdum talks about his new book Desi Arnaz: The Man Who Invented Television. Also, we hear from Mark Hamill. He's in the new movie The Life of Chuck and is known for playing the iconic hero Luke Skywalker in the Star Wars movies. He talks about auditioning for the film and acting with puppets. Plus, TV critic David Bianculli reviews the new HBO documentary, Pee-Wee as Himself.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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How did Desi Arnaz become a star?

448.857 - 455.083 Todd Purdom

Yes, he was an adequate singer, but he was not an incredible vocalist. There's no doubt about that.

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455.563 - 459.347 Terry Gross

Meanwhile, Lucille Ball wasn't getting the traction that she wanted in movies either.

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460.484 - 472.667 Todd Purdom

No, she'd been working steadily in movies since 1933. This is 1950, 51, when they're trying to get the show on the air. She was approaching the age of 40, which then, as now, was a very dangerous age for a female actress in Hollywood.

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473.648 - 482.75 Todd Purdom

She had worked steadily, but she'd never really broken through as a major A-list star, and she was beginning to be known as the Queen of the Bees, the second-tier movies that rounded out double features.

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483.792 - 508.392 Terry Gross

So at the point that I Love Lucy is about to begin, she was starring in a radio sitcom called My Favorite Husband. And now that TV was beginning to catch on, the network thought we should transfer it to TV and make it a TV sitcom. And that's not what she really wanted to do. She wanted herself and Desi to who was her husband by then, to have their own sitcom.

508.792 - 513.958 Terry Gross

So talk about how they made the deal to co-star in a new TV series.

514.963 - 536.34 Todd Purdom

Yes, what happened was she was in the last gasp of really big network radio. It was a sitcom about a zany wife and her fifth vice president of a bank husband called My Favorite Husband. And CBS realized that television was catching on and the Lucy show had been successful. So they wanted to transfer to TV. And the only way she was willing to do it is if Desi played her husband.

536.76 - 560.151 Todd Purdom

But he himself realized he could not plausibly be the fifth vice president of a bank. Richard Denning, who was the actor who played her husband on the air, was a blonde, waspy, jut-jawed kind of actor. So they were struggling to have a different concept and one that CBS, which was running My Favorite Husband, would accept. Finally, Desi said, I have an idea. We'll go on a vaudeville tour.

560.231 - 584.718 Todd Purdom

We'll take my band on a tour of movie houses around the country in big cities. And you can perform comedy and we'll perform comedy and music together and prove to the suits at the network that the public will accept us as a team. And in the summer of 1950, that's what they did. And it was a spectacular success all over the country. And finally, CBS and the sponsor, Philip Morris, agreed.

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