Rachelle Hampton

The co-creators and dowager queens of Normal Gossip are Alex Dujon-Loughlin and Kelsey McKinney. Justin Ellis is Defector's projects editor. Jasper Wang and Sean Coon are Defector's business guys. Alex Dujon-Loughlin is Defector's supervising producer. Tom Lay is our editor-in-chief. Dan McQuaid runs our merch store, which you can find at normalgossip.store. Tara Jacoby designed our show art.

Thank you to Catherine Chu, Brandi Jensen, Louise Pérez-Pumar, Chris Thompson, Jasper Wang, Sabrina Embler, Dave McKenna, Patrick Redford, and Ray Rado for all your help on this season. Thank you to the rest of the Defector staff. Defector Media is a collectively owned subscriber-based media company. Normal Gossip is a proud member of Radiotopia. I'm your host, Rachel Hampton.

Thank you to Catherine Chu, Brandi Jensen, Louise Pérez-Pumar, Chris Thompson, Jasper Wang, Sabrina Embler, Dave McKenna, Patrick Redford, and Ray Rado for all your help on this season. Thank you to the rest of the Defector staff. Defector Media is a collectively owned subscriber-based media company. Normal Gossip is a proud member of Radiotopia. I'm your host, Rachel Hampton.

And remember, you didn't hear this from me.

And remember, you didn't hear this from me.

Hello and welcome to Normal Gossip. I'm your host, Rachel Hampton, and in each episode of this podcast, we're going to bring you an anonymous morsel of gossip from the real world. Welcome to episode six, y'all. If you didn't tune in last week or you're not following us on Instagram, I have got some incredibly exciting news. This fall, Ciara and I are going on tour for the first time.

Hello and welcome to Normal Gossip. I'm your host, Rachel Hampton, and in each episode of this podcast, we're going to bring you an anonymous morsel of gossip from the real world. Welcome to episode six, y'all. If you didn't tune in last week or you're not following us on Instagram, I have got some incredibly exciting news. This fall, Ciara and I are going on tour for the first time.

This September, we are bringing Normal Gossip to nine different cities. We are stopping in New York, Boston, Seattle, Portland, Oregon, Denver, Dallas, Austin, Chicago, and Minneapolis. Tickets went on sale to the public on Friday, May 9th. So that means if you are listening right now and live in any of those cities, you can go buy a ticket immediately at normalgossiplive.com.

This September, we are bringing Normal Gossip to nine different cities. We are stopping in New York, Boston, Seattle, Portland, Oregon, Denver, Dallas, Austin, Chicago, and Minneapolis. Tickets went on sale to the public on Friday, May 9th. So that means if you are listening right now and live in any of those cities, you can go buy a ticket immediately at normalgossiplive.com.

This is Sierra and I's very first tour, and we are so, so excited to bring this show on the road, and we'll even be meeting some of y'all. There are exclusive VIP tickets for every show that include a meet and greet with the both of us, where I hope y'all will bring me some delicious little morsels of gossip. That is all the housekeeping for today's show. Now, on to the gossip.

This is Sierra and I's very first tour, and we are so, so excited to bring this show on the road, and we'll even be meeting some of y'all. There are exclusive VIP tickets for every show that include a meet and greet with the both of us, where I hope y'all will bring me some delicious little morsels of gossip. That is all the housekeeping for today's show. Now, on to the gossip.

Y'all, I love every episode of this season, but this one holds a special place in my heart because today's guest is none other than Slate staff writer Nadira Gough. Nadira is truly one of my absolute favorite people to record with. And I think by the end of this episode, y'all will definitely understand why.

Y'all, I love every episode of this season, but this one holds a special place in my heart because today's guest is none other than Slate staff writer Nadira Gough. Nadira is truly one of my absolute favorite people to record with. And I think by the end of this episode, y'all will definitely understand why.

Some of y'all who are paid subscribers to the show have already heard me and Nadira acting a damn fool. If you're not subscribed as a friend of a friend or a friend, you are missing out not just on Nadira, but on some exclusive listener-submitted gossip. If you want to sign up, go to defector.com slash products slash normal gossip. Okay, that is for real all the housekeeping.

Some of y'all who are paid subscribers to the show have already heard me and Nadira acting a damn fool. If you're not subscribed as a friend of a friend or a friend, you are missing out not just on Nadira, but on some exclusive listener-submitted gossip. If you want to sign up, go to defector.com slash products slash normal gossip. Okay, that is for real all the housekeeping.

Without further ado... Nadira, hello! Thank you so much for joining me. Thanks for having me. I am so excited to be here. I am really so thrilled. Our subscribers have had the absolute pleasure of meeting you before the whole audience does, but for those of y'all who have not had the pleasure of hearing Nadira, you're in for a beautiful ride.

Without further ado... Nadira, hello! Thank you so much for joining me. Thanks for having me. I am so excited to be here. I am really so thrilled. Our subscribers have had the absolute pleasure of meeting you before the whole audience does, but for those of y'all who have not had the pleasure of hearing Nadira, you're in for a beautiful ride.

Before we get into the gossip, I would love to know what your relationship to gossip is.

Before we get into the gossip, I would love to know what your relationship to gossip is.

I agree. I agree. You do have a very, like... I trust your face, you know? I look at you and I'm like, yes, I trust her.