Raf Epstein

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328 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard May 2026 last heard 28 Jul

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So yeah, there's going to be a lot of finger pointing.

I think what's interesting is how contested these things are.

You're on that march on a Sunday shouting free Palestine because you believe that the Palestinian people's future is under real threat.

People on the other side of it say, no, you are the real threat.

That's a hate march.

Now, they are some of the most hotly contested politics that I've seen in a very long time in this country.

Somehow, a royal commissioner, a judge, is going to have to adjudicate on those things.

That's not easy.

So, yeah, there's going to be a hell of a lot of finger pointing that will come up in the public hearings.

I genuinely don't know sometimes if it's better or worse to have more discussion and debate.

Of course, in theory, the contest of ideas.

Like, of course, I believe in that.

Otherwise, I wouldn't.

I've been the ABC for 30 years because I believe in the contest of ideas.

But you wouldn't be human if you didn't feel like...

Sometimes these conversations just end up grinding each other's point of view into the dust and not engaging with it.

So could it divide us further?

Yeah, absolutely it could.

Yeah, it really could.

Do we need to talk about it?

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