Raja Bell

Treating them with standing ovations and videos and things like that years later when they return, it's a special thing for them, and they deserve it.

No, that's unfortunate.

I'm trying to think of, I think Darren and Jerry were like that a little bit.

I think they mended the fence a little bit before Jerry passed.

Who's that, Darren?

I can't really speak to his relationship.

I think he's good there.

I know he really liked playing there.

I'd play golf with him and hang out.

I know he liked it there.

I wasn't there when the erosion of the relationship started.

I just was there when it came to a head.

But I think

I think they, I think I remember them kind of having to sit down and kind of mending fences, but like that always sucks when someone means to a franchise, what jaw has meant to Memphis and what Darren meant to, to Utah, what, what Dirk meant to like the Mavs.

Like you, you want those relationships intact.

You want, you want them around.

You are correct.

Logan, it speaks to future potential stars.

It just, it just goes to your overall culture.

Like if we're preaching and, and,