Ramez Naam

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373 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 16 Jul

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And so this...
domain, A, that is how we're getting a lot of the gains, we think.
It's secret sauce for all the labs, but that's what we are figuring out from observing them.
And B, generating that data is becoming itself a massive market.
So we think the sort of
Specialist human data generation market is something like $10 billion a year right now.
You have companies out there like Mercore is one that are valued private startups at multiple billions of dollars who basically produce this data.
in the right manner, with the right software, and so on, to help the labs, or sometimes to help enterprises, improve their AI models.
And so I think you're going to see more and more and more of that, a related domain there.
You see...
Leaders in AI have said things like AI will cure cancer, AI will double the human lifespan or whatnot.
These are overblown expectations.
It's not like that at all.
But if you look at what's happening in AI and biology, again, AI is limited by the quality of its training data.
And that data has to be experimentally derived if you're talking about curing disease.
So you see AI companies partnering with or acquiring or licensing data from biotech companies that have platforms to do experimentation and get real-world data that can feed back into these AI models.
Data is the bottleneck on AI.
So I think to your first example, I'm reminded of Andrej Karpathy, one of the OpenAI co-founders, led AI at Tesla, now at Anthropic, talks about fossil data, that we mined all of this fossil data like we mined fossil fuels.
But now we have to move into a new domain of generating new data.
I think this data, like ongoing data of how a business operates and so on, I think is super interesting.
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