Rand Paul

Right.

But I get back to my initial sort of argument about having local police do it.

They're not doing it.

But in an ideal world, the way we fix this and have less ICE agents in cities where they're having a very difficult job is the local people do their job and they're not sanctuary cities.

Right.

Well, how could you stop sanctuary cities?

And when someone is arrested and they're clearly not a citizen, you're not reporting them to ICE.

See, it's defiance.

It's nullification.

They have been nullifying our laws on deportation for years and years.

And so now there's something they really dislike.

But who brought it upon?

My point is the left brought this.

It's not an answer, but it's an explanation that the left is bringing this to their cities because they're refusing to enforce the laws.

But I think the argument needs to be made again and again, and the left needs to hear that they have created this situation by disobeying the immigration laws, by ignoring the deportation orders, by not reporting people who are committing crimes.

Now, we're not talking about some guy mowing lawns.

We're talking about somebody who stole a car, somebody who raped somebody.

They are in jail.

So this isn't the ordinary working person who's here illegally.

We're talking about the criminal illegals in our country.