Randa Abdel-Fattah

I don't even think that there's much of a desire to create a society.

The focus really is on how can we make business work better?

How can we cut through red tape?

That's not utopian unless you live in a society of corporations.

That's it for this week's show.

I'm Randa Abdel-Fattah, and you've been listening to ThruLine from NPR.

Next week on the show, how reality became something you could edit and sell.

The idea is that we're going to record people being people and placing them in very sort of strange, bizarre situations.

And that's going to teach us something about what makes people tick.

Throughline was created by me and Ramteen Adablui.

This episode was produced by me and Julie Kay.

Casey Miner.

Christina Kim.

Irene Noguchi.

Kiana Mulgatam.

Sarah Wyman.

Fact-checking for this episode was done by Kevin Vogel.

Special thanks to Holly Baxter, senior staff writer at The Independent, and Rachel Corbett.

Thanks also to Tom Nicholson, Johannes Dergi, Dylan Kurtz, Rebecca Farrar, Liana Simstrom, Julia Redpath, Beth Donovan, Yolanda Sanguini, and Tommy Evans.

This episode was mixed by Jimmy Keeley.