Randall Carlson

Right.

But, but the point is, is that when I was a kid in the fifties and early sixties and stuff, it was a different thing.

And literally, yes, you had imported foods and stuff, but nowhere near like now, like I said, most of the food that we ate was

when I was living in rural Minnesota as a kid, came from a couple of miles within our house.

So there was no vulnerability to a breakdown of the supply chains.

We forget about it.

That's right.

Well, that idea did not originate with me.

That's been around for quite a while, actually.

But it's gone through iterations where different scholars have taken a fresh look at it, and what they sort of have discovered is that you can build a pretty solid case that this guy— See, you have to differentiate between the Christ of faith and the Jesus of history, right?

So there's this guy—

presumably now who's been exalted as the one and only Son of God, who worked miracles and died for our sins and all of this, that is not the original conception of Christianity in the first two centuries.

And we have to go back to that.

And this brings us into a whole other kind of minefield because of the fact that there is now primarily—it's a doctrine of faith, and you have faith that the scriptural writing is the ultimate word of God.

It's not contaminated by the fact that it was human beings who ultimately wrote it down.

Exactly.

But just to punctuate this, let's think about this.

Jesus was presumably the most, at least according to a large segment of the world's population, Jesus was the most important historical figure of the last couple thousand years.

Yet what do we really know about Jesus, the historical figure?

Well, he was born in Bethlehem.