Randall Carlson
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first heard Apr 2025
last heard 11 Mar
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I'm down here to meet with Tucker Carlson. And, uh, so, uh, Malcolm, I guess, heard that, you know, I'd kind of like given his secret island location where he had a laboratory on an island in the Indian Ocean. And I kind of, I let the cat out of the bag. So he actually came to Florida here, came to Sarasota, and we met.
Yeah, he came because I had told him I was coming down here to do the interview with Tucker Carlson. So I got this picture of me and him and Tucker at Tucker's studio, you know, so
Anyways, he met me here, and then I was going to – I don't remember the exact sequence of events, but he decided since he was here, he was going to stay around for a while, and he rented a place up on Boca Grande, and it was a couple of years ago, so – Turned out that the manager of the place was a fan of mine. Okay. And then they had a restaurant that had closed down during COVID.
So he gives us the key that says, hey, why don't you guys just take this over while you're here? And we set up sort of a temporary recording studio in there and we recorded some things, but... So we go to breakfast. This is like a couple of days later.
We go to breakfast, and it turns out that one of the associates here who actually was with the World Bank lets Malcolm know that I'd apparently, because I had mentioned Mazda. Right, right. And there was a nondescript... didn't know non-disclosure agreement. Um, so he was on his way to Japan to do damage control. And I'm like, Oh my God, look, I'm nobody. What am I?
You know, this World Bank is on its way to Japan to do damage control. Right. So I'm like, Oh my God. You know, then a day or two goes by, we're having breakfast at an outdoor cafe and I'm Malcolm's phone rings, and he answers it. It's the same fellow. He says, well, it turns out it's cool. They saw their, after this comments, their stock shot up.
Oh. Well, I don't think they followed through on it, but yeah.
Yeah, okay, see, small world, I guess. So, yeah, just it got wild. And then, yeah, it's gone from there. So, you know, I really took a deep dive in to try to understand the technology. And, you know, I've got a pretty good idea now, but, you know, it's still, the question now is not, does it work? It works.
Too many people have seen it work, independent people who are skeptical, who came in and said, eh. And then the question is not, does it work? The question is, how does it work? And that's, that's the controversy and it's quite remarkable. Uh, the results. I mean, it's to me, I look at it and go, this is it's transmutation. It's alchemy. It's like a recovery of alchemy. I it's all I can say.
I mean, it's – it's going to, if it does become mainstream, it's absolutely going to revolutionize the industrial landscape of the planet. I mean, I'm convinced of that because of what it does. And I mean, once you start looking into it, you go, yeah, this is like next level stuff here, what he's doing. And there's other independent researchers that have come up with similar things.
But what I've been able to see, he's kind of taken it to the furthest extent. And he knew some of the big names of the inventors that preceded him. And so he was able to draw a lot on their work and he gives everybody credit. So yeah, I think he's really, I mean, he's a humanitarian. He doesn't really want anything. He just wants to be a recluse on his island. That's all he wants, really.
And I feel like that he's perhaps vindicated his life. But yeah, so this Roland Perry wrote a book called The Shaman, which is basically, I mean, what Roland told me, he says the book is basically true, but I wrote it as fiction because it's so bizarre that most people won't the only way I could really put it out there was disguise it as fiction.
No. So what happened was when, uh, when I was going to go back on, I didn't know when, when Rogan invited me back on after the episode with Graham, you know, I didn't know that I hadn't met Malcolm at that time. I don't think, um, yeah, I'm pretty sure I hadn't met him. So, but then when I came back, that I think it was November, um, of what year, with Graham.
And then I came back in, was it February? 24, right? Yeah. And at that point was when Malcolm was here. So I was with myself. Who was your most difficult where you're doing the interview, you're like, dude, I can't wait for this thing to finish.
He probably was.
Well, so when we go in there and Jamie had pulled up all of this stuff, this whole thing with shale oil. and uh their their strategy was basically we see it in politics now all the time to basically paint him as a charlatan and um and that that's when we walked in jamie had printed out all of this stuff and it was joe do nothing about any of it now he's looking at all of this stuff and uh
So he just hadn't really dove deep enough into it. The problem is now is again, there's way too many independent people that have been involved with it. And like I said, skeptics, um, that have, you know, tested it rigorously. I've been present when, you know, scientists from Los Alamos laboratory are testing it. Right. And they're like, okay, this works.
But, you know, he's a controversial character. And when you hear his story, it sounds unbelievable. That's why Roland Perry wrote it up as a fictional account. But from my knowledge, I haven't seen anything outside of the fact that he had this whole period where they were trying to scare away investors.
And so they bribed journalists, they bribed politicians in Australia and Tasmania to create this impression. And the problem is, I guess you could say, is Malcolm, you know, like I said, he's an eccentric character.
So, you know, when you start interviewing him, you know, and you've got this context of, you know, that he is this whatever grifter or whatever, and then you're talking to him, you know, some of the stuff that comes out of his mouth is pretty unbelievable. Yeah. And he says he got in a gunfight with assassins. And Joe was like, get out of here.
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